New British Airways longhaul routes for summer 2011?
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at 18:35 by NewBAexec.
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BABenjiParticipantGiven that the JSA between Qantas and BA was recently renewed for another 5 years, that means at least until 2015 on the kangaroo route.
While the US destinations are obviously profitable it would be prudent to start looking to other areas for growth. Dare I say looking south to Africa? Other major cities in Russia? Samara perhaps? Other countries in the region such as Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan?
16 Sep 2010
at 12:43
BullfrogParticipantSan Juan Puerto Rico which would link up with the cruise ships.
Fort Lauderdale would be great for South East Florida. In all the years I only ever remember Concorde making a visit to FLL. But then surely BA would just an extra flight to Miami.
On the short haul … how about LCY or LHR to Bergerac .. Dordogne’shire’ .. for all those with second homes.
16 Sep 2010
at 14:15
ListenerParticipantFORT LAUDERDALE would be brilliant alternative to Miami so long as the timing of the flights are nowhere close to the mass of Caribbean flights that transit through Ft. Lauderdale. I’ve seen lines for immigration back as far as the aircraft doors!!!
Would have to be a 767 as I think runways aren’t as big as MIA or West Palm (Virgin used to ply there with 747 service in the 90’s).
Alas no lounge either at FLL unless there is plans for BA to build one? A mini-terrace perhaps???
16 Sep 2010
at 14:38
HippocampusParticipantIt would be financially benificial, both in terms of aircraft utilisation and crewing costs for BA to take care of passengers on the LHR-SIN/BKK legs and for Qantas to take passengers on to Australia. However, for Qantas in particular, there is a symbolic element in sending your aircraft the whole way, as well as the convenience for passengers in being able to fly on one flight.
I think we will see both more transatlantic and Asian destinations. WW has said that there a few new destinations in each direction under consideration. New equipment and the new Mixed Fleet will certainly help make new Asian destinations viable.
16 Sep 2010
at 17:10
KSHaggagParticipantI believe that if the BA 001 ,003 LCY/JFK are proving highly popular and indeed profitable ,then why not extend the concept to other routes from LCY to US e.g. Washington or Boston …an outstanding product ,a swift disembarkation ,quick check in and easy access to the City ……….I would rather fly an A318 from LCY to IAD than an oldish B767 from LHR !!!!!!!!!!
16 Sep 2010
at 18:27
AuslineParticipantThere is no way BA/QF will dump direct flights between Aust and the UK.. The route is profitable – look at the premium fares in AUD! the load factors are in the high 80’s, the JV works well and the competition from Asian and Middle East carriers make this route strategically important to both carriers.
My only wish is that I would love to see BA back on the Mel/Lhr route.
16 Sep 2010
at 23:38
VintageKrugParticipantI agree it’s strategically important.
But it is not possible to draw the conclusion that the route is profitable just because the fares charged are high, or indeed because the load factors are similarly perceived to be high.
It’s all about margin, and while the peaks and troughs on the route are shared on the JSA I think it seems to work well; but I would imagine the goal for this route is really to break even or make a modest profit; it’s never going to be a big moneyspinner.
I hadn’t considered San Diego; that would be an interesting route, and especially if it started in Gatwick.
The 767s will very likely be completely refitted internally (though BA refurbishes all of its longhaul fleet on a rolling 18-24 month cycle) ; though they are not certified for http://www.newclubworld.com which is a slight drawback.
17 Sep 2010
at 07:04
gregd75ParticipantSo, I can fly to Auckland via LAX? Which airline codeshares with BA on that one? Correct me if I’m wrong, but the only airline flying from LAX to Auckland is Air New Zealand which is direct competition.
I think your information is wrong there BUCKSNET.
Another destination that would be great, after the introduction of LGW-CAN would be direct flights to Puerto Vallarta- another huge holiday destination
17 Sep 2010
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