Stand up against excess carry on luggage

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    Edski777
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    Finally someone called Spud Hilton, a blogger in the USA, has started using social media to expose travellers that take oversized carry on luggage with them into the cabin and airlines that let them.

    #CarryOnShame

    Finally someone who takes action against selfish people and indifferent airlines that create dangerous and uncomfortable situations. People who don’t follow clear instructions and are playing the system. Airlines that won’t enforce their own rules.

    Read his blog:

    http://blog.sfgate.com/travel/2014/06/05/time-to-smack-down-carry-on-offenders/#24011101=0

    Or is someone unreasonable and misusing social media by limiting your personal choice to take whatever you want?

    What is your opinion.


    LuganoPirate
    Participant

    If I’m totally honest, take what you can get away with.

    Airlines should let you check in a bag for free as they used to. On a recent trip to London from Zurich, I looked at BA. Now I did not need to check in a bag going, but I knew I would coming back. The BA would not let me choose a no bag fare one way and a with bag fare for the return. Both had to be either with or without.

    Ironically this small difference in fare is what tipped me back to Swiss with whom I flew who were just that fraction cheaper and of course do not charge to check in a bag.


    MartynSinclair
    Participant

    Would be far easier if the airport authorities directed passengers back to check in, rather than allow them through to security checks. That way you take the airline out of the decision process.

    With regards to transit passengers, airport authorities should direct them landside to check in.

    That way the oversized hand luggage stays landside.

    The wait at the baggage belt, should just be factored in to travel time.

    Only issue of course is if you are travelling with a certain gentleman and family from HKG – then I would suggest you try to take the baggage cart on board for fear of losing the bags!!! (apologies Ian 🙂 )

    Whilst rudeness is unacceptable at security, what I witnessed yesterday in T5, does partially explain the attitude of the security checkers… Absolutely unacceptable what they have to put up with…. ..

    Stop passengers taking the bags through security in the first place and that will solve the majority of the problem..


    SimonS1
    Participant

    I don’t see how transit passengers could be redirected land side – what if they didn’t have a visa to enter the country. All that does is put unnecessary pressure on the border staff. In that case there would need to be some arrangement in the transit area. Could also be a challenge if the passenger is moving from say T1 to T5.

    I agree that the authorities should take control. Station two ‘heavies’ at the entrance to each security entrance and turn the passengers away. It isn’t for the security staff to do this, it needs sorting before that stage. However the airlines are too spineless to do it so it needs taking out of their hands.


    BelperFlyer
    Participant

    Rather than put the responsibility on the staff at Security and the opportunities for argument simply install at the mouth of the scanner a profile which is equal to the maximum carry on size. In that way a larger bag cannot pass through security.


    canucklad
    Participant

    Good Friday Morning one and all

    Well Edski777 , At first I hurrahed the idea, as my happy clappy numbskulls in my head saluted Spud Hilton. Where do I sign up…..I said to myself as my fingers raced towards the keyboard. : )

    Then the logical part of my brain slapped my happy clappy side with some of the realities of this irritating behavioural led disgraceful practice….. : (

    1) The people who believe its their right to travel on board with more baggage than either Hannibal crossing the Alps or pioneers migrating west on the Oregon trail are so far up themselves that they would probably take it as a compliment if their face was plastered over a Time Square or Piccadilly Billboard!
    2) Airlines, far from discouraging this selfish behaviour are doing the exact opposite, look no further than BA.
    3) And most importantly of all, these people are potentially already being an irritant to me as I breeze through my journey as effortlessly and lightly as possible. They would really start to become an annoyance if I really let them impose their selfishness on me, by me wasting my valuable time to stop and take “snapshots” of their misdemeanours’.

    So ,with a sad sigh of resignation I’m probably just going to “tut tut” the next time I encounter Hannibal or indeed Calamity Jane thus minimising their impact on my life.


    Gin&Tonic
    Participant

    I believe we have all contributed to this discussion many times over the years, and it still gets my blood boiling when I sit in my seat and watch the performance that goes on in the cabin. My last BA domestic Lhr – Man, I boarded early and put my miniscule laptop bag and jacket in the overhead. The usual procession of bag laden passengers then proceeds to board and the cabin crew take on the role of baggage handlers.

    As the last passengers boarded a cabin crew member is holding my bag in the air asking who’s is this. Mine I reply. He attempts to hand it to me claiming “there is no room in the bins I must take it under the seat in front” I honestly went into melt down after years of this farce week in week out I shouted back “Well there was room before you took it out so I suggest you find room again and put it back” “No room came the reply” I jumped up from my seat took the last bag (approx. 15kg) out that he had put in, left it in the aisle and put my laptop bag back in. “There you go now there is room”
    Amazingly I then got a round of applause from a handful of passengers; I assumed that those who were not clapping were the ones with the excessive cabin baggage.
    If your life is so important that you cannot wait for a piece of luggage at your destination you should be worth of a private jet, so get one!


    AnthonyDunn
    Participant

    @ Gin&Tonic – 13/06/2014 09:31 GMT

    I had thought that the pax with the 15kg bag was taking the Michael until I reread the BA cabin baggage instructions:

    http://www.britishairways.com/en-gb/information/baggage-essentials/hand-baggage-allowances

    Perhaps in trying to be more amenable to travellers, BA are comprehensively making a rod for their own backs and positively inciting people to take the mick if the weight limit is 23kg….


    Charles-P
    Participant

    ‘Gin&Tonic – 13/06/2014 09:31″

    Bloody well done ! If I had been there I too would have been applauding. Only recently I had a BA cabin crew remove my laptop bag and replace it with the THIRD bag of another passenger who had used all the spaces near her seat. She then tried to jam my bag in front of another bag while forcing the lid shut. My protestations were greeted with the standard airline response these days,

    “We don’t tolerate rudeness to staff” to which my reply was,

    “I don’t tolerate damage to my bag because you have not done your job properly”


    canucklad
    Participant

    @ Gin&Tonic – 13/06/2014 09:31 GMT + 1

    My sentiments can be found below, maybe its a good thing I wasn’t onboard…. : )

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5y_-X5Pu3M


    Gin&Tonic
    Participant

    Canucklad, 🙂


    MartynSinclair
    Participant

    The ideal place for hand baggage checks is before security. Too much and send back to check in.

    I agree my earlier suggestion re sending transit passengers landside would not work, but there needs to be somewhere in the transit process where excess bags can be checked in.

    Why are the airlines not interested in solving this problem?


    LuganoPirate
    Participant

    I’m not so much against the weight but the quantity. I have a small Samsonite cabin bag that easily passes all the size limits, but sometimes I have 15 kgs in it. However it takes the same amount of space whether there’s just a kg or 20 kgs inside.

    Perhaps a better solution is to call forward for boarding all those pax that have just one piece of hand baggage. Once they’re on then all those with 2+ bags can fight it out amongst themselves for the remaining space!


    AnthonyDunn
    Participant

    @ LuganoPirate – 13/06/2014 17:24 GMT

    Or it is made very clear to pax during the pre-boarding announcements that anything and everything clearly outside the cabin baggage restrictions will go in the hold. There are bag gauges at boarding gates, so why aren’t they used I wonder? This is an issue that could and should to be addressed by the carriers before we get into a situation where people are either injured or die as a result of excess cabin baggage during turbulence or preventing people getting off a plane in an emergency. I consider the BA bag tags advising that item x should go under a seat rather than in the over-head lockers as an open invitation for people to try it on.

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