BA Pilots to be Given Silver Exec Cards?

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    JulianCucumberpatch
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    During the cabin crew dispute, many commuting crew earned sufficient miles to become silver or gold members. This has apparently irked BA’s elitist pilot community.

    Although like our regular customers such status is hard earned and costly, BA’s pilots feel they are entitled to the perks of the Club Lounge when they are passengering home to their tax havens.

    If these silver cards are indeed handed out to the pilots for their personal travel requirements, I suggest that when genuine BA silver and gold card members see these uniformed imposters in the Club lounge, they go up and ask them for a glass of champagne or engage them in a lengthy discussion about ‘induced drag’.


    Binman62
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    Sounds plausible in a cack handed BA way…..is there evidence to back this up? BA managers have long had such benefits….or at least since lounge access policies were changed to protect the vulnerable.
    BA positioning flight crew already benefit from guaranteed club seat with high upgrade codes and have been known to exercise right to club at expense of downgrades and offloads. Access to lounge is merely the next logical step.


    RichHI1
    Participant

    To fly to be served?


    MartynSinclair
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    Surely staff tickets do not accrue airmiles and tier points.

    Any employee earning a BAEC status card through revenue, should be encouraged, no problem with that – although I doubt many will be tempted to use whilst in uniform.


    FlyingChinaman
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    I agree with Martyn that NON-REVENUE tickets don’t earn miles or tier points. Otherwise our redemption tickets will earn both!!!


    openfly
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    Juliancucumberbitch is obviously a very jealous BA staff member as he/she says ” ‘our’ regular passengers”. I doubt that he/she will ever aspire to the dizzy heights of Blue status,
    let alone Silver!

    But, I agree that it is wrong to award Silver status to employees, with wives and 5 kids who will tag along as well! It totally devalues the Exec Club and also fills the lounges. Where does it end?

    The cabin crew who earned their Silvers/Golds during the industrial unrest were earned correctly. I am not sure where the pilots have an argument that they deserve this facility thru status in BA.


    Stowage222
    Participant

    These points were earned mainly by communting crew using BA Hotline (commercial) tickets, not staff travel as all who had taken strike action lost that perk. It didn’t take long to reach Silver status. BA has advised them not to appear in the lounge in uniform.


    FlyingChinaman
    Participant

    If the crew members earned the tier level with commercial tickets then they have the rights to use the lounge.

    BA is very wise to advice this group NOT to flaunt their uniforms so as not to upset the frequent travellers.

    This privilege was obtained through contribution to the strike and it is only for ONE year. Let them have the benefits!!!!


    Binman62
    Participant

    This is not about the legitimate acquisition of status through spend and travel, it is about complimentary membership being given to flight crew due status in the company and indeed the complimentary status that is already given to senior management in the company.
    These complimentary cards operate in the same way as real cards with the same criteria for entry of car holders and their guests to a lounge. So a captain with wife and 5 kids would not gain access with a single silver card.
    At a time when many lounges are overcrowded the question is “is this right”. BA tighten is access policy to lounges precisely to reduce overcrowding and this included the removal of a significant perk of their most loyal customers with the removal of open doors. Whatever ones views on that decision is does seem rather odd that you would remove a perk (reduce access) with one hand and yet give complimentary access to flight crew. They will use their right s far more frequently that gold’s ever used open doors and so the decision if true is in my view deeply flawed.


    MartynSinclair
    Participant

    What are BA (Hotline) commercial tickets?

    With all the past discussion of crew benefits along with the actions of Bazza and Shazza, I do find it slightly bizarre that their are complimentary staff silver cards in circulation for staff.

    If a senior manager is flying on company business, may be, I can understand the logic of access to a lounge. Comping any other staff member with lounge access, along with family, seems a little generous, even by BA standards and as posters say, devalues the benefits of the card somewhat.

    There was a discussion in the past about BAEC card holders having access to the lounge with ALL their family and whilst it was not accepted with glee, it was accepted that the rules are the rules.

    If this story is true, I would be pretty annoyed if these comped cards do exist and are available to all family members of the staff concerned.

    Once again, staff buying revenue tickets and earning BAEC, fantastic, credit to the product, but BAEC awards and membership based on staff travel……………………..I cant see anyone agreeing to that, except of course to the staff who benefit.


    StephenLondon
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    You don’t have to worry, folks. Pilots being given complimentary silver cards is 100% rumour.

    My neighbour is a pilot with BA He said some pilots have cards based on their private expenditure with BA (be it hotline or regular commercial tickets).

    A couple of pilots have silver cards based on their management levels and responsibility (like the chief pilot, for example), much as a few BA senior executives have. There is no mass distribution of silver cards to all pilots at BA.

    As an aside, the pilot knows of one member of cabin crew who flies on sufficient revenue tickets to earn a gold card. This has zero to do with work – this is someone who just loves to travel and chooses to spend their income on revenue tickets.

    Martyn: Hotline fares are available to all BA staff members who must book them via their own BA system. They are firm tickets, though offered at a reduction, on select flights. Occasionally Club fares are offered, long with Plus and regular economy. Each staff member has an annual allocation of these tickets for “friends and family” use.


    rferguson
    Participant

    I am BA Cabin Crew and have a Gold Card.

    I achieved the status as at least twice, usually thrice a month I commute to London from my home on the continent. I purchase standby tickets about 50% of the time and ‘hotline’ commercial tickets the other 50%. If I purchase Hotline tickets I buy Club Europe ones as there are often great fares and 120 tier points for each return journey.

    I did not participate in the ‘summer of discontent’ last year as I am not a Unite/BASSA member. But I must say I would be quite peeved if Flight Crew were given Silver cards gratis.

    But as StephenLondon says, the issuing of these is pure rumour at the moment. Someone heard from someone that heard from someone.


    MartynSinclair
    Participant

    Find it astonishing that discounted staff tickets qualify for BAEC tier points and presumably AVIOS miles at the full rate.


    londonlad
    Participant

    Ah that old chestnut ‘we all work on the same aircraft’ therefore we must all be equal.

    Pilots hold a professional licence, which takes two years training to achieve. That licence is tested every 6 months and pilots have rigorous medical checks every year. Not to mention the responsibility every time they come to work.

    All jobs are not equal. Just because someone works in a hospital it doesn’t make them a surgeon. If BA wants to offer certain groups perks, then that is their decision.

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