UK Railcards – who can’t get oneBack to Forum
High rail fares are a frequent complaint in the UK so railcards giving you a 1/3 off are welcome. I myself have a disabled persons railcard.
I was looking at this list of railcards and I hadn’t realised the sheer extent of railcards available. It seems that nearly all now give 1/3 discounts to anytime, off peak and advance fares at least in standard class.
As far as I can make, you CANNOT get 1/3 off your rail fare if all of these conditions apply.
1. Aged between 31 & 59
2. Not disabled
3. Not unemployed
4. Not a member of the armed forces
5. Not a veteran
6. Not travelling with children
7. Travelling on your own
If at least one of these don’t apply to you, there is a railcard you can take advantage of.
I’m wondering what % of rail travellers actually tick all the boxes above?
As often happens with the railways, a bewildering array of options may lead to confusion. I think there is a case for having a single national railcard for which certain people can apply for.
1 user thanked author for this post.6 Dec 2022
Well we are only occasional rail users but we will be travelling from London to Penzance (return) in May/June. My son, very helpfully but quite cheekily, pointed out that, from January, I will be eligible for an Over 60s card. So we should save the cost for two people on one trip. Happy days! I think the last time I had one was as a student.
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ImissConcordeParticipant6 Dec 2022
[quote quote=1269393]Alternatively you can also purchase it with £10 Tesco Clubcard vouchers!! Every little helps as they say!!![/quote]
Totally agree, just renewed my Senior railcard with Tesco vouchers before they expired. Great value6 Dec 2022
I do tick all of those boxes, but I DO have a railcard you may not have considered. The Network Railway works for me and covers my frequent journeys between London and East Anglia, although it doesn’t work for many parts of the country. Well worth £30 per annum despite the area it covers being limited.6 Dec 2022
AspirationalFlyer, I originally had the Network card in my list but took it out because as you say it only applies to journeys starting and ending in the London/SE area.
There are similar railcards for Devon/Cornwall, Cotswolds and Pembrokeshire but you have to be resident in those areas.7 Dec 2022
Network Railcard used to be much better until they butchered the benefits a few years ago.
now only gets you a 1/3 off if ticket value is over £13 (Mon-Fri) – applies to any fare level on a Weekend. Also only valid on trains after 10:00 weekdays.
So great for say a trip Brighton to London after 10:00 but not so much for a weekday off peak trip Brighton to Lewes for example (which I do quite often).
About time they considered a national railcard. Been talked about for years but never materialised7 Dec 2022
I don’t think the ticket value of over £13 is correct. I looked for an evening fare from Woking to Surbiton today. Fare without Senior Railcard is £8, fare with is £5.257 Dec 2022
Tim was referring to the Network Gold card which is available to London season ticket holders. You’re right that restriction doesn’t apply to other railcards.7 Dec 2022
Interesting to hear that a National Railcard is not a new idea.
One issue that may get in the way is the growth of Oyster like cards around the country. I only ended up on the railcard link because I followed a GWR ad about their new “Oyster” card for the West England (Bristol) area.
Whilst a railcard can be attached to Oyster so that you automatically get the 1/3 off, oysters can’t be paired up for companions. So my wife who normally gets a 1/3 off because she travels with me, wouldn’t get a 1/3 off if she used the Oyster-like card. She would need her own railcard to get that.7 Dec 2022
[quote quote=1271845]About time they considered a national railcard. Been talked about for years but never materialised[/quote]
Indeed. Something akin to DB’s Bahncard.
It was hoped Great British Railways would have led to fares simplication and, hopefully, something like the Bahncard.
But as rail author Christian Wolmar noted last September Great British Railways “GBR is dead. There is no legislation and they will have to muddle through. The grand ideas did not really accord. Does this government really like the idea of a strong arms-length organisation running the railways ?”7 Dec 2022
Simon Calder has just posted this piece. Follows on from my previous posting.7 Dec 2022
The £13 limit applies to Network Railcard – I go to St Albans which is £12.80 and it doesn’t kick in.
Then I go to Gatwick for a morning flight, and it doesn’t work for that either (peak time).
But going to London tonight, I get the saving (£17.80 instead of £27.00)
1 user thanked author for this post.7 Dec 2022