[Inquisitive]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-13169915/amp/mother-daughter-British-Airways-cabin-crew.html

A very good news story, very happy to see BA recruit senior flight attendants without prior experience. Contrary to many BA bashing, as an employer – they seems to be taking some good steps.

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Montysaurus

[TominScotland]

Indeed, Inquisitive, it is great to see a good news story like this about BA. This attitude to older workers is something many other businesses could learn from, given the challenges of demographic change that we face – having just listened to the sad tale of someone let go from financial services in the City at 57 and, 5 years later, still unable to secure a position that makes use of his experience, it is evident that ageism is rife in many industries (including aviation in countries across the globe).

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Montysaurus

[FDOS]

To add some balance to this story, are you aware what BA pays for an entry level cabin crew role?

There aren’t any currently advertised, however a currently advertised senior cc role at LGW pays a basic salary of £22k (plus some extra payments/bonuses that BA says will make the package ~£30k). https://careers.ba.com/job/gatwick/ba-euroflyer-senior-cabin-crew/32612/60116511136

By way of comparison, from April 2024, the national living wage will be approx £23k, based on a 40 hour week.

Also, this story reflects recruiting practise in 2011 😉

I am not bashing BA here, but putting into perspective those ‘good steps’ mentioned in the OP.

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cwoodward, esselle

[summerfly]

Pretty sure nobody would do this job for the money as it’s so badly paid but for the love of people and travel. I understand many cabin crew work their way up the ranks into other jobs at BA. In that regard it’s not a bad career, certainly if you love to travel. And Concorde Julie seems to still love her job as inflight manager since 1977.

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Montysaurus

[Rferguson2]

The salary only refers to the ‘basic’ wage. On top of that you get your ‘variables’ which depend from airline to airline but can include things like sector pay, per diem, allowances for meals, overtime etc etc. And of course at the LOCO’s COMMISSION. Depending on the airline your ‘variable’ pay can make up anything from 30-50% of your monthly take home pay.

As a point of comparison BA still offers a significantly higher base salary than say Virgin Atlantic, EasyJet, TUI etc.

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ImissConcorde, summerfly, christ

[FDOS]

The salary only refers to the ‘basic’ wage.

Actually, I wrote “a currently advertised senior cc role at LGW pays a basic salary of £22k (plus some extra payments/bonuses that BA says will make the package ~£30k)“.

I was comparing £30k for a very responsible role v the living wage of £23k (from next month).

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summerfly, Rferguson2

[Inquisitive]

Agree that entry level salaries are low, but that is present trend in the industry.

It is sad that ratio of average/lower rank employees salary to top management salaries is getting lower day by day. Earlier it was mostly in USA and now it is almost anywhere including developing countries.

Funny thing is hardly any politicians talks about it and general public seems to accept the fact.

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summerfly, pdwtrip, FDOS

[cwoodward]

As a comparison with BA
I am told (by crew) that Cathay junior cabin crew earn close to HK28,000 (UKP about 3000 per month) with extras – about 21K basic and they would pay very little tax in HK -not more than about 10% in most cases -and possibly less.

Cathay also have a small UK c crew base staffed by ex HK employees -it can be a great experience if you get one of these very experienced crews.

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