How about a Ryanair “thin rebate”?Back to Forum
Anonymous24 Apr 2009
With all this talk about Ryanair considering a tax for fat travellers, i’d like to weigh in with a suggestion that they give money back to those on the lighter side of life.
I’m a six foot tall man and weigh just under 9 1/2 stone (approx 60kg). I propose a sliding scale, starting at zero for the average weight of a man / woman in the UK. Those over this level pay more, subsidising us “thinnies” that are under the scale.24 Apr 2009
This is a good idea but you would have to weigh people in at check-in as weight varies over a 24 hour period. People weigh less in the morning which means Ryanair would have to consider changing some of their super early morning flights and put on more evening flights to ensure they squeeze more dosh out of everyone…24 Apr 2009
It’s not likely that Ryanair will give anyone money back.
A better, and fairer idea, would be for passengers who satisfy the weight requirement (ie: are below whatever the maximum weight is), are then weighed along with their cabin baggage. So waferthin would have the option of taking on heavier cabin baggage, while someone right on the limit would only be allowed a newspaper.
This would have to be restricted to each particualr passenger however. So if waferthin is married to fat-as-a-house (“Jack Sprat could eat no fat / His wife could eat no lean”) he should not be allowed to “pool” his lack of weight with a heavier companion.
Ryanair’s proposals are
1. Charge per kg over 130kg/20 stone (male) and 100kg/15 stone (female);
2. Charge per inch for every waist inch over 45 inch (male) and 40 inch (female);
3. Charge for every point in excess of 40 points on the Body Mass Index (+30 points is obese);
4. Charge for a second seat if passengers’ waist touches both armrests simultaneously.
I don’t think 2 and 3 would work.
4 would work if, like the metal cage they have at check-in to see if your cabin bag fits in, they have a seat next to it.
Any dispute, and fattie has to sit in the seat.
Perhaps the metal arms could have a low electric current running through them like those kids games so it makes a buzzing noise when their spare tyre touches the arms of the seats.
Perhaps have a large cardboard cutout of a normal sized person, and if they can’t walk through it, then they aren’t allowed to fly.
Perhaps have double seats at the back of the plane, like they have in cinemas, where fatties can loll about but pay more for the privilege.
I’m not sure how aerodynamic that would be, perhaps a pilot could tell us, and obviously if the plane crashed it would be like having a lot of heavy luggage in the back of your car squashing anyone in front of them, but perhaps with reinforced seatbelts and harnesses for them…. where there’s a will….24 Apr 2009
I think the cardboard cut out is genius. Does it matter which part of the person can fit through? As you say a big waist and fat arms is a bigger problem than big outward belly, so the cut out would have to be adapted to airline seat requirements.
However – surely the big people you are talking about are the ones who buy all the tasty “snacks” and booze onboard – the ones who buy the triangular chocolate and who therefore make Ryanair the extra money. They would also be the ones who would need to use the bathroom the most (so if the loo was charged for they would be paying out here too). So they are already paying extra really.
Ryanair is already make plenty of money from the bigger people. Tall thin people need thicker clothes to keep warm so their luggage can be just as hefty as large peoples’ who get hot and therefore wear less.24 Apr 2009
I know Ryanair get blamed for everything, but blaming it for national obesity is a bit much. Fat people are fat long before they get on board as a result of excessive spending on sweets on the ground, not in the air.
I’ve also noticed that fat people rarely go anywhere without a huge amount of “emergency snacks”, and so their hand luggage is likely to be full of packets of boiled sweets, crisps, sugary drinks and legs of lamb in a baguette, so I bet they spend less on board.24 Apr 2009
I’ve noticed recent Ryanair flights seem to have a slow descent to the destination airport. If the plane is full of light / thin people they may have to use fuel to get down. My old friend Newton tells me (from beyond the grave) they would be better off with a heavy loaded aircraft. Hang on….. Newton’s on again, oh no, forget that we both forgot about the take off part.
Just another O’Leary stunt the remind us that, as much as we would like to believe otherwise, Ryanair still exist.
I flew Aer Lingus today to Dublin, loved it.24 Apr 2009
I also think there should be a fee for those who are exceptionally ugly.
I really dislike sitting next to mingers, and judging from previous experiences wafting off the GEx through the LGW South Terminal en route to the BA First Class lounge, I would imagine the propensity to be challenged in the attractiveness stakes is higher for the average Easyjet passenger than the population at large.
Say £5 for greasy hair and an extra tenner for any sort of facial piercing?25 Apr 2009
Perhaps we could have an “offset” scheme – ugly bloke = £10 charge, voluptuous Siren in tow = £10 rebate.
Unemployed Labour MPs and Local Councillors could administer the scheme after the election!26 Apr 2009
There’s a fundamental difference, though.
Both fatties and ugly people distress their fellow passengers, but only fatties have immediate control over their condition. A tax on fatties gives them a choice – continue to eat pies and pay extra for flights, or reduce pie intake, lose weight, and pay a normal fare. In this way the taxes discourage harmful behaviour (cf: taxes on alcohol and tobacco).
A tax on ugly people is harder to justify however, unless the money is to be placed in a charitable fund, and then can be accessed by ugly people for remedial surgery, something which I don’t believe has yet been proposed by any of the airlines (or governments for that matter).
In the meantime I believe it would be simpler if we keep to the fat tax, and simply hand out larger sized sick bags to anyone sitting on the same row as someone who is ugly. Those with sensitive stomachs can then use the bag when they are sick at the sight of the minger in the next door seat and/ or the ugly person can put it over their head to save distress to others27 Apr 2009
Agreed that fat people are easier to measure. Ugliness is subjective, whereas the scales don’t lie. Fat people should pay for two seats. I really don’t want to be squashed when there is so little room anyway on most of these flights.27 Apr 2009
So all of the posters making offensive comments here are perfect then? And here ‘s me thinking that this was a travellers forum.
I have to agree that sitting next to someone who is large can be a problem – perhaps not as bad as sitting next to some of the ignorant posters on this thread.
I am fortunate that my body is proportionate and certainly compatable for fitting in even the tightest of seats – maybe if some of the contributors on this thread were unfortunate enough to suffer a disease that requires treatment with steroids for example – which by their nature, inflates the body significantly, maybe some attitudes will change. Cancer is one such disease that comes to mind.
Are there no moderators on this forum??
DP30 Apr 2009
DPassmore – i don’ t think the posters are being entirely serious in their comments. Its more of a statement of how stupid the suggestion by Ryanair is, which is no change from the norm.30 Apr 2009
I am allowed to take the micky out of both fat and ugly people being both myself . I would hate to have to sit next to me on a ryan air flight or any other cheap no room airline and if your infront of me forget about being able to recline your seat. I always think it strange when people jump to the defence of others in this way are we the bad ones for taking the micky a little in jest or is it you for thinking seriously that anyone offended would be not able to reply for them selves and need a thin attractive hero to come to there aid ? Maybe you think there large podgy digits make it hard to type I know I have to use an over sized stylus for both my phone and keyboard.30 Apr 2009