The Truth About BA – Can BA be trusted under WW?

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    Tete_de_cuvee
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    Under WW leadership BA has incurred industry leading fines around the world for ticket price fixing.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6925397.stm

    plus £90 million for the cargo cartel

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/8121145/British-Airways-fined-104m-for-role-in-air-cargo-cartel.html

    The national embarrassment of the T5 opening. Biggest losses in its history, worst industrial relations, table topping lost baggage, complaints.

    Now risking passanger lives? Thank goodness the CAA took a prudent approach and prevented flying during the volcanic ash cloud.

    http://www.correntewire.com/never_trust_ceo_your_personal_well_being

    Note the final comment..
    “NOTE And if the CEOs had gotten their way, and even if no engines had melted, the abrasion would have weakened the aircraft skin, and the effects could have taken years to show up”

    WW commenting on the airspace closure .. “gross over-reaction to a very minor risk”

    Flawed judgement calls from a flawed CEO. Can Walsh be trusted?


    TGLynch
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    To be fair to Mr. Walsh the price fixing and cargo issues predated his leadership. With respect to the Airline, no CEO prior to Mr Walsh was willing to tackle the legacy issues of BEA/BOAC work practices and the pension issue which, had it not been tackled, would have bankrupted the airline. He did this with vigour and courage, in my view and it made the IAG deal possible as well as finally delivering on the AA/BA transatlantic pact. I think Mr Walsh showed commendable presence of mind in getting UK airspace open again reflecting his experience as a captain. As for the T5 debacle, it happened on his watch. BA demonstrated considerable hubris initially which invariably invites nemesis. I think BAA was equally if not more culpable with respect to the T5 issues underlined by the incompetence of the snow clearance operation last December. All in all, its a very good record and we will see how the new management team at BA now performs!


    pixelmeister
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    Um… but WW is no longer in charge of BA so I fail to see the relevance of this topic. Certain groups have tried to demonize the guy, can’t think why. Of course it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that he has dragged the business, kicking and screaming, into the 21st century, successfully improved productivity and overseen the streamlining of working practices.


    StephenLondon
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    I’m with you, pixelmeister, I fail to see the relevance of this topic. This is stirring for stirring sake. Ho hum. And I agree, WW has dragged the business into the 21st century, for which he has been given quite a few awards and honours of late. But then, I don’t think Tete_de_Cuvee wishes to hear about any accolades for the man.


    robsmith100
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    Tête_de_cuvée – wouldnt this post be best suited on business management forum? many commentators like myself are on this forum are pro Walsh.


    VintageKrug
    Participant

    Just looks to most of us here like Tete is grasping at straws.

    A not guilty verdict was returned:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/ba-pricefixing-trial-collapses-after-discovery-of-new-evidence-1970542.html

    I’d be more interested to read the findings of the BASSA Branch Secretary’s Employment Tribunal:

    http://www.mediafire.com/?t9jdr3ydm9pj9pu

    He lost.

    I’d like to be certain that BASSA isn’t using its subs income for unconstitutional ends; unfortunately, no accounts have been published, even to members, so it’s not possible to say where the almost £1.5-2m per annum in subs went over the past decade.


    DisgustedofSwieqi
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    I don’t agree with most of what Tête_de_cuvée posts, but I do find it a refreshing balance to counter much of what another person posts, also most of which I don’t agree with, but at the other end of this scale.

    The world does tend to be a self balancing place, e.g. does the rabbit exist because of the fox or the fox because of the rabbit? This forum is a microcosm of the world.


    pixelmeister
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    Tete

    Walsh took over as CEO in mid 2005. The cargo cartel judgement you refer to was as a result of activities spanning the period 1999 – 2006. BA was not the major offender in this cartel, that honour is reserved for Air France/KLM. To say that Walsh was solely responsible for this fine (which incidentally, BA had made a provision for in their accounts in 2006/7) is stretching things a bit far, as is any suggestion that he was the leading light in the case.

    You also haven’t addressed the principle criticism of this thread, namely that it fails to recognise that Walsh is CEO of IAG, NOT BA.


    JohnPhelanAustralia
    Participant

    Why do some continue to bring WW into EVERY aspect of any topic about BA and try to demonise him for every perceived ill in the western world? Obsession is never a good look ……


    StephenLondon
    Participant

    Actually, Tete, I do have a keen interest in Duncan Holley, the BASSA Accounts and other “irrelevant threads” – I just don’t feel the need to post my thoughts on them for posting sake.

    DH/Bassa et al are contributing to the most amazing university course syllabus which is being taught this autumn as part of a graduate program in Europe this autumn.

    I echo the comments by robsmith100 and others – you’ve raised this thread because____??? And you’ve titled it incorrectly since, like pixelmeister has said, WW is CEO of IAG, not BA.


    Tete_de_cuvee
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    And yet another fine for BA – this time £54 million to settle just the US class action alone – Europe still to settle.

    More millions are also being spent on programs trying to build bridges destroyed by WWs strategy to divide his workforce.

    http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/British-Airways-pays-54m-tele-1284166587.html;_ylt=ApZ9Ax0C21VNSaTfm2kbqSQ3sLFG;_ylu=X3oDMTFjdWIwdTY1BHBvcwMzBHNlYwNyZWxhdGVkLWhlYWRsaW5lcwRzbGsDYnJpdGlzaGFpcndh?x=0&.v=1

    The cartel operated under WW regime. It would be interesting to know what action BA has taken against its employees prive to these illegal cartels?

    WW has been looking for savings – how about stopping illegal activities – savings to BA – hundreds of millions.


    VintageKrug
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    I think you’ll find the word you are grasping for is “privy”.

    Which is exactly where this feeble attempt to demonise Willie Walsh belongs.

    A not guilty finding was returned:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/ba-pricefixing-trial-collapses-after-discovery-of-new-evidence-1970542.html


    Delsurrey
    Participant

    “The UK flag-carrier was one of 11 airlines..” Why is WW being singled out for comment? Can we stop these irrelevant personal attacks please!

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