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  • DavidGordon10
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    Surely there is an easy answer to this, the list of airlines banned in the EU. This is made by people who look at and are qualified to analyse the data – https://ec.europa.eu/transport/modes/air/safety/air-ban_en

    I look with some concern with some of the comments on this thread.

    “Avoid many airlines from a certain huge continent to the south of Europe”. So do you exclude Ethiopian and Kenya, both with 100% good safety record in the last 10 years? Even Egyptair, one of my regular carriers, is 100% OK in those ten years apart from MS 804, which was quite likely a bomb, therefore a failure of CDG security.

    “A large country to East of Europe”. Aeroflot is 100% OK for the last 20 years.

    “Turkish….never!” Again, a good record for many years (since 2009) apart from one incident with a wet-lease aircraft flying with a TK flight number.

    I know I am showing my prejudices, as a regular on all the above apart from Ethiopian.

    Do you really feel safe on BA, given the incidents on BA 38, BA 2276 and BA 762? Superb pilot skills, yes, but…

    The real assessment of risk requires a serious statistician (Bath VIP, where are you?)


    DavidGordon10
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    I started a thread on a related subject about a year ago.

    To cut to the chase, two passengers, same surname, same address, same booking, business class (paid for), on the BA Bermuda to Gatwick flight. A couple of days before the flight, the seat selection shows us well apart. Do you pay to book seats together? Sod it, you should not have to. Two passengers, same surname, same address, same booking, business class (paid for) says to me that the system should seat them together.

    So thanks to some excellent advice from a travel expert (well known on this forum) we sit tight and arrive at the airport still with bad seats … and the charming people at check in and in the lounge sort it out, people with gold and silver cards upgraded to F, the rest of us sat with the person with whom we booked.

    It stinks, just a ruse to get the worried to pay for seats sat next to the person with whom they booked. Stinks.

    I am glad that almost all my flights are with Star Alliance or Skyteam carriers.


    DavidGordon10
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    Well FDOS, we are not going to agree, so we should not go on any longer and I will not reply after this, my last post. I think it is stretching a point a very long way to say that inhalers are included in “sprays, including shaving foam, hairspray and spray deodorants”. They are different in volume and in the physical form of the contents of the container: they differ in the method whereby the contents are released

    You suggest that other airports are not following the rules: I think that they have interpreted the rules as meaning that medical inhalers are not “sprays” as defined above, and every other airport I have met worldwide does not treat inhalers as liquids. If other UK airports are going to be “caught by covert inspection” then a giant airport like LHR is going to have plenty of covert inspections – and they have not started to treat inhalers as liquids.

    To go right back to my original post, the serious thing is that security procedures should as far as possible be the same in every airport and in every airline, because those of us who travel a lot (like most users of this forum) get irritated by inconsistency, and an irritated passenger is potentially a dangerous passenger.


    DavidGordon10
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    No, I am sorry but the UK government does not “mandate that inhalers are treated as liquids”. The government website that you provide lists “Essential liquid medicines” on a completely separate line from “Inhalers” and nowhere does it say that inhalers are liquids.

    If the UK requires all airports to treat inhalers as liquids then why do LHR, LGW, STN, MAN and EDI (all of which I have passed through recently) not treat them as liquids?

    (And, incidentally, why did LCY ignore the dry powder inhaler that I also carry, if “inhalers” are “treated as liquids”?)


    DavidGordon10
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    Sorry FDOS but that is not the point. UK airports are entitled to inspect any medicine we are carrying (for example, my inhalers or my supply for emergency use of oral steroids) but the inhalers are not containers of liquid in any ordinary sense of “liquid”. They contain an aerosol, a suspension in a gas of very fine particles. I cannot conceive of any way they could be used to make a bomb, although they could explode if thrown on a fire.

    The X-raying of liquids in containers of <100 ml is to see if we are carrying liquids that could be used to make a liquid explosive. No other airport that I know treats inhalers as liquids in this sense. So why is LCY different? In the absence of any reasonable explanation, my conclusion is that they have someone in charge who is too bone-headed to realise that an inhaler is not the kind of liquid container they should be looking for.


    DavidGordon10
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    The “list every country you have visited in the last 10 years” routine is only there because the UK asks something similar of potential Russian visitors. Thank the Home Office in the days when Mrs M ruled there.

    Of course, if you are an oligarch with millions of dollars of dubious origin it may be easier to get into the UK….

    On a serious note, it is a great and generally very safe city with fascinating people. The immigration officer once almost produced a smile, even.


    DavidGordon10
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    A brief “all is well that ends well” note – in contrast to the chaos at the lounge desk on arrival, the next day TK and Eithad staff were charming and efficient at getting me onto the Etihad afternoon flight. My checked bag was happily on the same flight.

    Only two problems remained:
    I only discovered too late that the best seats on which to sleep in the TK lounge are not actually the ones that are the most flat
    I missed a huge and fine dinner in Abu Dhabi on Monday evening. My friends have been telling me about it ever since…


    DavidGordon10
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    RF, I am fascinated that the number of bottles of champagne seems to be in multiples of 10. When I buy the stuff (not often) it is in multiples of 12. Who gets the two left-over bottles in each case?


    DavidGordon10
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    Many thanks all three responders. The crazy thing is that, when Uber is good, it is very good.

    One calculation is that the time to reclaim the £10 will cost a lot more than £10 at my normal hourly rate. I suppose that is part of their calculation.

    in reply to: UBER scam?

    DavidGordon10
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    A couple of good experiences with them in Philadelphia recently, but outrageously ripped off in London (LHR T2) this week.

    I requested the ride at 22.05 on 8 March
    The driver phoned me to confirm and to confirm where I was waiting
    He then asked me my destination
    He then phoned me to say he had a puncture and could not accept the booking
    I asked him to cancel it and he said he could not
    He said I should cancel – and said there would be no cost as “it would be less than two minutes”

    I was charged a £10 cancellation fee.

    What was wrong

    He should never have accepted the ride if he had a puncture
    The “puncture” becoming apparent after he had confirmed my destination is odd
    Why could he not cancel? His phone was working and he had accepted my ride in the normal way.

    The next driver gave a very satisfactory ride to my destination.

    It stinks. Worse, the Uber website will not let me get in to demand a refund, it tells me the password is wrong and then the “resent password” function is just not working

    in reply to: UBER scam?

    DavidGordon10
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    LP, I am absolutely with you on both Royal Jordanian and Amman airport. A serious airline and an airport with potential for those middle-East connections.


    DavidGordon10
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    Yes, safest year ever for aviation. Would you Adam and Eve it, Donald Trump has posted a tweet claiming credit for this safest year…..


    DavidGordon10
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    I endorse everything written above – Happy New Year everyone!

    in reply to: Happy New Year

    DavidGordon10
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    Air France do this in Business long-haul from CDG. Last time I requested the curry which was reasonable, and not under-seasoned like a typical French Fricassée à l’Indienne.

    More worrying was AF from BKK to CDG running out of white wine. How could that happen!


    DavidGordon10
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    Clean water in every hotel in the world. I hate using bottled water to clean my teeth.

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