Toxic Air Syndrome
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at 12:01 by Tom Otley.
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TCSH11ParticipantTo be honest LP it’s happening in all airlines. A great friend of mine passed away from just such an event, but the airlines still refuse to admit they are taking profit over lives. This situation could be solved by one simple filter, but BA for one as well as Virgin and many of the charter operators refuse to use them, as it’s all down to cost.
Just to inform those haters of 787 … these aircraft do not have these issues… so despite the window blind issue, they are healthier aircraft to fly and work on, which again I would of thought of as more important than a window blind !!!!
8 Nov 2016
at 16:34
TCSH11ParticipantIt was over the news at the time, it is a very serious thing but airlines hush it up
This is an old article of the incident but it has been proved now.
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/british-airways-warned-over-downplaying-toxic-fume-events/
11 Nov 2016
at 18:05
CleancabinairParticipantThis incident deserves to investigated for both pax and crew. please help where you can ?
https://www.facebook.com/BA286/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE14 Nov 2016
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TCSH11Participant[quote quote=774376]Please help if you were a passenger on this flight BA 286? We need the AAIB to provide a report for the benefit of all passengers and crew on toxic cabin air ?
https://www.facebook.com/BA286/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE[/quote]
I was not no.. but am sure most that were would of reported it by now if they felt ill
14 Nov 2016
at 12:44
TCSH11Participant[quote quote=520198]Many thanks Site Admin. It seems that the subject is now been given credence in the media however even now the sensitivity of the subject is causing ructions. ITV who interviewed the parents of Matt Bass who worked for BA were told by ITV not mention the employer for fear of legal and commercial penalties. It is mentioned in several media outlets that he was BA Cabin Crew! I note both BA and the CAA have yet make any comment on the matter!
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Matt was a great BA crew member and one I had the honour of flying with. This is a tragic loss and one BA CEO has smeared on his hands.
15 Nov 2016
at 06:51
AhmadParticipantAn interesting article I came across on the aviation herald site:
http://avherald.com/h?article=4a20760d&opt=0
The nonchalant attitude of all concerned, including consumer groups, surprises me.
13 Dec 2016
at 15:38
Tom OtleyKeymasterThe initial report was “leaked” to The Sunday Times.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/past-six-days/2017-01-01/news/flight-crew-spaced-out-on-fumes-bzf7sxl65
“Bizarre behaviour was also described in the report, including the crew curled up in corners on the floor with blankets over their heads. Members of the crew also stuffed food into their mouths while on oxygen, according to the report.”3 Jan 2017
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Tom OtleyKeymasterThank you Ahmad – done.
Also saw this
7 American Airlines flight attendants go to hospital after complaint about fumes
3 Jan 2017
at 15:58
transtraxmanParticipantA initial study published by a Belgian research psychologist, Daniel Dumalin, suggests that exposure to toxic fumes and even low dose toxins in aircraft can cause dangerous levels of contamination in brain cells. After the events, there are “bursting headaches, extreme tiredness and concentration problems. In some cases, people will start to shake or feel numbness in certain body parts. In the aviation industry, this is referred to as Aerotoxic Syndrome.”
It is so serious the psychologist compares the dangers on a level with those exposed in the asbestos and tobacco industries 40 and 50 years ago.“Study reveals permanent brain damage among pilots and cabin crew”. Aviation24.be 16-04-19
Study reveals permanent brain damage among pilots and cabin crew
It should be added that it is supected frequent fliers are also exposed to the same degree. Something to ask questions about!!
18 Apr 2019
at 10:59
Bath_VIPParticipantHmmm…
No sampling plan of aircrew stated
Sample size of 7 selected on a convenience basis rather than statistically sound
Openly soliciting for more subjects
Clear statement of prejudice up front
No statement of whether scans were studied by other physicians to see whether they agreed or not
No actual data published
No paper submitted for peer review
Use of hyperbole in communicationsReminds me a lot of Andrew Wakefield and the MMR scandal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMR_vaccine_and_autism
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