QR Reduce Manchester Frequency?

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This topic contains 11 replies, has 7 voices, and was last updated by  esselle 11 Jan 2012
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    EKJW1000
    Participant

    It looks like QR are to reduce their double daily to 10 weekly from 26/03/2012.

    Any one heard anything about this?

    Cheers


    LuganoPirate
    Participant

    No, but it may be done to allow them to have some extra capacity on higher yielding routes.


    esselle
    Participant

    My wife is in the air at this very moment having gone out MAN-DOH-MEL last week, due back in at MAN tomorrow lunchtime. The J fare on offer dwarfed anything available of more traditional routes, and her praise, which is not mormally easy to come by, for the service, F&B, transfer at DOH, comfort aboard the 777 onward from Doha, is fullsome. Full cabin all the way down. Let’s see what the return was like.

    Given the amazing performance of EK out of MAN, let’s hope that QR manage to keep up some worthy competition.


    first_class_please
    Participant

    Yes it is true.

    New schedule from 26th march will be:-

    Manchester – Doha
    1000 – 1900 on Wed, Fri, Sun
    1455 – 2355 daily

    Doha – Manchester
    0150 – 0730 on Wed, Fri, Sun
    0745 – 1325 daily

    Seems Emirates three times a day and Etihad twice a day is taking a toll on Qatar…


    MarkCymru
    Participant

    As Esselle says, it is very good. The new fully-flat seats on the 777s are amazing: 2–2–2 so no middle seat (very unusual for a 777). Even the angled seats on the airbuses aren’t bad. The service is amazing — friendly, efficient and usually very well tailored to each passenger (they did wake me up once for a meal that I had already said that I didn’t want but that was a one-off). The business terminal in Doha is an excellent alternative to long walks through massive terminals with erratic priority for premium passengers. So much so, in fact, that I’m rather dubious about the opening of the new airport in 2013.

    Let’s hope that LuganoPirate is right and that it is to free up aircraft rather than because of any weakness in demand.

    Qatar is so much better than Emirates that I simply don’t understand why anyone would choose Emirates, especially with the 80s-style business class seats that seem to persist on so much of the EK fleet


    continentalclub
    Participant

    The reasons for the change could be myriad perhaps the clue to the retrenchment does indeed lie in esselle‘s quote:

    “The J fare on offer dwarfed anything available of more traditional routes….”

    If a market doesn’t display demand or yield, then the price to the market will be often be reduced to stimulate demand. Once demand is established, prices can be firmed to deliver the yield requirement.

    If reducing the price to the market doesn’t work, then the next step is often to reduce exposure to the market – and perhpas that’s what QR are doing, as many before have.


    esselle
    Participant

    I am sure the competition from EK, who have really ramped things up over the last year and who now operate triple-daily, including an A380 service does play a part in this, particularly if flying over DXB to connect to another sector.


    continentalclub
    Participant

    It’s quite possible, esselle; that and the fact that EK, AFKL, LHLX and BAIB all have a greater number/frequency of onward connections/codeshares from their respective hubs than QR do, with more opportunity in the latter three cases to earn within and across FFPs.

    It’s likely to be a very complex set of reasons why QR may find other routes more profitable – if that is indeed the reason for reducing the Manchester frequency.


    Tappy84
    Participant

    Moving capacity up to their new EDI service perhaps? Still only a rumour of course…


    first_class_please
    Participant

    Don’t think QR are going to EDI. Emirates were the ones to announce a second daily flight to Glasgow.


    esselle
    Participant

    My wife is safely back from her trip down under; she has done countless trips in F on BA but says the QR J product on the 777 is infinately preferable on space, bed comfort, easy sleep, AVOD etc. Service a bit clunky and less polished, but comfort and sleep score highly.
    Now I need an excuse to try it!!

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