One month before Emirates arrives at Stansted

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  • AMcWhirter
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    It’s easy to forget that Emirates will inaugurate London Stansted services in a few weeks.

    Stansted is enlarging its check-in area as we reported today.

    Stansted opens new check-in area

    And Emirates inaugural flight is set to take place on June 8.

    Emirates will fly from London Stansted in 2018


    MarcusGB
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    EK certainly have a large enough network to make this a success, a good catchment area for NE London / Counties customers, avoiding LHR!
    Many previous Long haul Airlines have been point to point, so feeding into a larger network, this may well be a clever move. The others failed.
    Certainly provide something different the LCC’s do not.

    Are the fares A tempter?


    AMcWhirter
    Participant

    I’ve always thought Emirates would have launched Stansted service years ago. There is so much potential considering Emirates vast network.

    There were many rumours in the Gulf media that Emirates would start services there and especially after Stansted was approved to handle the A380. But nothing ever happened.

    Besides the London suburbs there are areas to the North and East comprising the Stansted catchment area.

    Not sure about prices. May be a case of Emirates having the option of providing more ex-London capacity without having to expand further at Heathrow.

    If Stansted proves to be a success then expect a double-daily service to follow.


    Dominic Ellis
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    Just had a look at return business class prices to DXB in mid-June (prices pounds)
    STN 918-1,089
    LGW 1,093-1,506
    LHR 1,105-2,411


    pheighdough
    Participant

    It appears that one of the drivers behind the commencement of the service is not just increased passenger demand, but also additional freight capability from the London/Midlands area to the Gulf. Demand is high, so rather than an additional freight only service, add passengers on, so expect less than full flights, but maximised in the holds.


    IanFromHKG
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    It appears that one of the drivers behind the commencement of the service is not just increased passenger demand, but also additional freight capability from the London/Midlands area to the Gulf. Demand is high, so rather than an additional freight only service, add passengers on, so expect less than full flights, but maximised in the holds.

    That would be consistent with using a B777 rather than an A380 – is that the plan?


    AMcWhirter
    Participant

    That would be consistent with using a B777 rather than an A380 – is that the plan?

    12 May 2018 at 12:37
    #866636

    From past experience Emirates will launch a route with an aircraft other than the A380 and then build the route as demand increases.


    FDOS_UK
    Participant

    That would be consistent with using a B777 rather than an A380 – is that the plan?

    12 May 2018 at 12:37

    #866636

    From past experience Emirates will launch a route with an aircraft other than the A380 and then build the route as demand increases.

    I think the point pheidough is making is that the A380 isn’t the best for freight and the 777 offers better usable capacity.


    pheighdough
    Participant

    FDOS_UK you are correct, the B777 has much better hold carry capacity combined with less fuel burn on the route making it cost effective. What you don’t carry with passengers you fill with more freight.

    A380 vs B777 Interesting comparison between the A380 and the 777 in EK (Emirates)
    Emirates operate both the 777 and the 380 to several places. It seems like the A380 has some use up to about 7 hrs. it IS very comfortable to fly in and, if you fill all those extra premium seats, there is probably money to be made.

    On longer routes, the fuel burn just gets unacceptable.
    Two routes flown by both aircraft on the same day-
    DXB-London. (Dubai – London)
    A380- Trip Fuel, 84.2 tonnes, Available Payload, 74 tonnes, utilised 73 tonnes payload
    B777- Trip Fuel, 54.3 tonnes, Available Payload 57 tonnes, utilised 57 tonnes payload
    So the A380 was roughly comparable – not AS efficient but in the ball park.

    DXB-JFK (Dubai – New York)
    A380:- Trip Fuel 172.9T (I kid you not!!) Available Payload 67T, utilised 52T payload
    B777:- Trip Fuel 106.8T, Available Payload 57T, Utilised 45T payload

    So, 66 tonnes of gas extra to haul an extra 7 tonnes. Which flight do you think would be more proffitable?

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