Norwegian to fly Amsterdam-NewYork using KLM slots

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  • AMcWhirter
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    Dutch media has today reported that Norwegian will launch non-stop Amsterdam-New York JFF flights in May.

    EC rules (intended to provide more competition on this route) have meant that KLM has transferred a number of slots to Norwegian.

    Some keener fares are the likely outcome.

    http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2018/01/klm-agrees-to-give-up-schiphol-new-york-slots-to-norwegian-air/


    AMcWhirter
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    KLM’s CEO has today said he wants more short-haul flights to be turned into rail links to free up slots at Schiphol.

    According to Peter Elbers a full Schiphol will reduce KLM’s opportunities for expansion.

    And the slot shortage is why Norwegian was granted KLM’s slots for its New York service – see abobe.

    But the idea of trains replacing short flights is not new.

    There were plans a couple of years ago to operate a new high-speed Brussels-Schiphol serve branded as Fyra.

    Article in Dutch via Zakenreisnieuws.nl

    https://www.zakenreisnieuws.nl/nieuws/categorie/2/airlines/pieter-elbers-betrouwbare-snelle-trein-kan-korte-vluchten-vervangen

    The plan was for KLM to co-operate with the Fyra trains and have check-in facilities either onboard the trains or on arrival at Schiphol.

    But Fyra was unpopular with many travellers (including some of our readers) not least because the Italian-built high-speed trains were prone to failure.

    The failures were so bad that the Fyra concept was axed and the trains sent back to Italy.

    https://nltimes.nl/2017/08/31/italian-rail-company-buy-fyra-trains-ns-report


    canucklad
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    A slot shortage at Schiphol, if only BA & LHR had such things to worry about !!!

    I wonder if the French government would allow AF to give up slots at CDG in the same manner?


    AMcWhirter
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    Although Schiphol has so many runways they cannot all be used at the same time (correct me if I am wrong) because of environmental constraints.


    LuganoPirate
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    You now have the Thalys trains whicb link Brussels and Schiphol in an hour and a half passing through Antwerp and Rotterdam. I don’t think the Fyra was much faster though there’s no check in facility. I stand corrected, but I don’t think there are any flights now between the cities?


    Alex McWhirter
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    LP – Surprisngly KLM continues to offer as many as five flights a day between Brussels and Amsterdam.

    Services are operated by Embraer jets. Flight time is 50 to 60 mins.


    Flightlevel
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    The sooner short haul routes were operated efficiently by trains the better for all,less airport traffic (cars mainly!) is better for the environment and slots are better used for longhaul.
    Many EU routes have rail ‘though not always efficient, UK rail especially!
    Even in Asia the busy KUL-SIN will one day be a fast rail route.
    Airlines like KLM,etc. will always operate some hub and spoke routes for longhaul – its in their business plan.

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