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JohnHarper

Maybe the answer to your question lies here, in another thread?

28th November

AMcWhirter – Participant

Weak passenger demand means that TK will be grounding 30 aircraft.

Reports say that 12 x A330-300s are grounded in Antalya. Four A320s are grounded in Ankara. Others will follow.

Article from airliners.de in German language.

http://www.airliners.de/turkish-airlines-nachfrageschwaeche-maschinen/40157

Have the Turkish Government released the 200+ TK staff that were arrested after the ‘coup’?

[SimonS1]

[quote quote=776174]BA recently did a trial where there was no choice of starter and a generic one was handed out. It worked SO much better than the choice.
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For the airline I’m sure it did, yes.

[FaroFlyer]

Heelo FDOS, I agree with AlexF. It is not a soft spot for a large corporation, but a feeling of home coming after a trip away somewhere. Getting on a BA A380 in HK and having a G&T is “comforting”.

I was interested in your seminar on brand management, and wonder what the definition of a brand is? To me it is total consistency of product or service, good or bad. Ryanair is a brand, and is consistent on all routes. Heinz baked beans, and all other Heinz products are a brand, as there is total consistency, like Coca Cola and Windows. Probably Virgin Atlantic is still a brand.

To me there is no longer a hotel brand, at normal mortals’ level, but there are many household names such as Hilton. In my opinion Hilton, or I could say Crowne Plaza, Sheraton or Marriott, are not brands as there is no consistency even within a country. BA is no longer a brand as the product is inconsistent. Vueling probably is a brand as the product is consistent. Car rental companies are also no longer brands, in my view, just household names. Last week I had 2 rentals in group J with Avis. First at VCE a J car was a BMW2 series diesel automatic, or equivalent. Second was at CDG where a J group with Avis was a Peugeot 208.

Is my differentiation between a brand and a household name fair?

[JohnHarper]

[quote quote=776601]JohnHarper

Maybe the answer to your question lies here, in another thread?

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Tom had you bothered to read what I wrote you would see I made exactly the same point as the one in the thread you quote only I made it twenty four hours earlier and I based it on real experience rather than reporting.

Do try to keep up.

[FaroFlyer]

Chengdu deals are not recent desperation. Last month I did SVQ > CTU return HKG > FAO in BA CW for €1,720. Hong Kong is not normally a good price departure point. Last year I did KLM LIS > CTU RT for €1,100 and KL are still operating the route, but higher than BA.

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