Long-haul First Class

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    As a frequent business as well as leisure traveller often using premium cabins, I am following the development of the long-haul first class market with interest. In addition to airlines’ own web sites and printed and on-line journals such as BT, there are some pretty good specialised websites such as airlinequality.com (Skytrax). However, it would be good to also have a forum to discuss this on a general level (rather than just debating the introduction of BA’s new First….), and I would be very interested to hear other frequent travellers’ view on this topic.

    One thing I have noticed is that the discussion and attention most often revolves around a small number of leading players, but in reality there are a larger number of airlines offering long-haul first class to a greater or smaller extent. The established, major players appear to be British Airways, Lufthansa, Swiss, Air France, Gulf Air, Emirates, Etihad, Qatar Airways, Air India, Jet Airways, American, United, Singapore Airlines, Malaysian, Thai, Qantas, Cathay Pacific, Air China, China Airlines, China Eastern, Asiana, Korean Air, JAL, All Nippon and TAM. In addition to these 25 players, a few smaller or newer players in the F arena are Turkish, Royal Brunei (both leasing Jet Airways aircraft), Transaero (almost never mentioned in this context), Air Tahiti Nui and Oman Air. Dragonair also has international F but only on shorter regional routes (and more of a J style seat).

    Additional airlines offering international F but with typically lower/older seat quality are Saudi Arabian, Kuwait, El Al, Egyptair, Air Algérie, TAAG Angola and Uzbekistan Airways. Marginal players are also Gabon Airlines and Air Ivoire, possibly also Yemenia and Hewa Bora. An odd player is SonAir flying between Luanda in Angola to Houston, Texas, including an F cabin….

    Finally two question marks: Hainan Airlines appears to have taken over a few long-haul aircraft from Cathay Pacific with a real first class cabin, but my impression is that Hainan, whilst using the planes on long-haul routes, are selling the seats as business class. Any views on this? China Southern introduced real F on some of its A330s a few years ago, but I do not know on what routes these aircraft are being used. Anyone?

    Have I missed anything??


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    I should clarify that in my post above I have taken a “technical” perspective to what is deemed “first class”, i e a long-haul cabin with two (or three) cabin classes below it on the same plane, and where the cabin is labelled “first class” by the airline – in other words without any analysis of the quality of seating or other aspects of the product. This means that there is a huge quality spread between the F products listed in my post, from the 2010 industry standard F cabins with individual flat bed seats to some of the African and Middle Eastern carriers whose “first class” seats do not even match the typical 1990s style cradle business class seat. On the other hand, the list excludes a number of excellent flat bed products that are technically business class but which are better than many of the lesser first class products.

    Another important aspect is the extent or spread of the F product of a given airline. Below I list the approximate current number of F seats on each carrier’s fleet, based on public information on airlines’ web sites and other sources.

    Saudi Arabian 1.410
    Emirates 1.100
    British Airways ca 1.000
    American 902
    United 870
    Lufthansa ca 800
    Singapore Airlines ca 700
    Japan Airlines ca 500
    Qantas ca 400
    Air France 349
    Cathay Pacific 314
    Kuwait Airways 296
    Korean 292
    Etihad ca 275
    Air China ca 250
    Air India 208
    Swiss ca 200
    Qatar Airways ca 180
    China Airlines ca 170
    Thai Airways 168 (+ 84 old F)
    Malaysia Airlines 156
    Air Algérie 136
    All Nippon 134
    El Al 112
    Gulf Air ca 100
    China Eastern 100
    Dragonair 96
    Egyptair 96 (soon to be phased out?)
    Transaero 81
    Asiana ca 80
    TAAG Angola ca 75
    TAM Airlines 64
    Uzbekistan Airways ca 60
    US Airways 54
    China Southern 32
    Air Tahiti Nui 30
    Air Mauritius ca 30 (phased out)
    LAN 25 (phased out)
    Jet Airways 24
    Royal Brunei 24
    Hainan Airlines 24
    Gabon Airlines 20
    Hellenic Imperial 16 (?)
    Oman Air 12
    SonAir 12
    Yemenia 12
    Air Ivoire 4

    This shows that some well known airlines who get attention for their F products are in reality very small players in this market. One example is Jet Airways, who after leasing out several of its aircraft (to Turkish and recently Royal Brunei) with F to other airlines has very little F. A small number of leading players together represent a large part of the total global F offering in quantitative terms.

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