14th December 2015 at 11:32 #451170
Anonymous14th December 2015 at 11:32 #451171
On board attire has been discussed, should this apply to lounges?
KP (The infamous English cricketer Kevin Pietersen) was banned for wearing flip-flops.
As long as there is appropriate attire for the airport, should the lounge enforce a higher standard?14th December 2015 at 13:32 #451172
I am not sure it is practical to even try and enforce dress codes. Flip flops in F class lounges hardly brings down the tone in 2015/16. Especially when ladies are able to wear fit flops (designer flip flops for bad backs)…14th December 2015 at 14:26 #451173
It has been a big issue in parts of Australia, particularly Perth (which now has possibly the most upmarket domestic airline lounge anywhere with the Qantas Perth Business Lounge – with One World Emerald access)14th December 2015 at 15:07 #451174
Funnily enough, many years ago, I was in a SAA lounge in Cape Town with Pietersen himself who was with a few friends. I didn’t know he was (apologies, I’m not the biggest cricket fan), but he was very loud and just wearing tracksuit bottoms, vest and a baseball cap and was clearly very sure of himself…
For me, it’s not about the attire, but more about behaviour, though he was off on both counts for me.14th December 2015 at 15:10 #451175
I would prefer a polite person in flip flops than a drunken oaf in a suite filled with self-importance because he has lounge access.14th December 2015 at 15:23 #451176
Agamemnon, Pietersen is known for two things… cricket and arrogance.
In his defence though, one of the finest batsmen ever to have graced a cricket pitch, and without that arrogance would probably not have been so darn good. I don’t mind arrogant people, if they have something to be arrogant about. The problem is all too often arrogance comes with average or below average ability, and we see those in various attire in lounges all over the place.14th December 2015 at 15:54 #451177
the other extreme are passengers entering lounges as if they are in the middle of a foto shoot, looking like models (male and female) without a hair out of place, without a crease in the shirt and obligatory sun glasses and a plum up their behinds…
When I was on the QM2 a month or so back, there was a passenger parading around the decks wearing swastikas, ISIS emblems and SS markings….. despite several complaints…. Cunard allowed this passenger to wear these clothes/markings
Qantas ought to worry about more important things than flip flops…14th December 2015 at 16:32 #451178
I think pretty poor really – I’m not a fan of his but I respect his skills on a cricket pitch. But like others have mentioned, I’d rather a quiet person being respectful in flip flops (which more likely be me) than some smart ego DYKWIA type causing masses of disturbance. In the same way you pay (or someone has paid) a lot of money to travel First, then as lounge is part of that experience they should get access unless wearing things that are massively offensive (a la Martyn’s comments). Odd that Australia, country built with flip flops in mind takes this attitude.
Ultimately though – got more important things to worry about!14th December 2015 at 16:41 #451179
As a cricket fan I would judge this has more to do with the general dislike the average Australian has for KP than it does his clothes.
cough Ashes Victory cough14th December 2015 at 18:11 #451180
As far as cricket is concerned , KP is just nuts to me…..now back on the topic of appropriate footwear.
I wear flip flops because it’s easier and more comfortable than messing about with ankle socks and trainers.
And clearly I only wear them when the mercury reaches a point where it’s appropriate to wear shorts and accompanying footwear.
Now, I’d personally rather sit next to someone wearing flip flops, with fresh smelling feet rather than an individual whose nasal powers inexplicably refuse to smell the aromatic cacophony of pong radiating from them wearing loafers or trainers without socks in sweltering heat…..
Horrible – Horrible- Horrible……. I recall a particularly honorific gentleman whose smell lingered like a block of gorgonzola that had just completed the Khartoum marathon ……. Couldn’t even finish my beer !!!17th December 2015 at 10:51 #451181
I often wear flip flops, t-shirt and shorts in the BA gold (sorry First) lounge at LHR – largely because I suffer in the heat and during the summer it can get hot in there (even on the balcony). I remember going on a short-haul flight in July in the evening, got to the lounge at around 17.30 in jeans, trainers and socks and a shirt and was so hot I had to change into aforementioned attire. Also, flip flops are a lot easier to flick on and off at security screening than shoes with laces, and I don’t have to wear a belt with shorts so that also saves time and hassle.
Same applies to on-board – I was in F on a flight to IAD earlier this month and it was so cold on-board I had to put on a jumper and scarf (already wearing jeans and trainers), then later in the flight it was so hot I had to strip down to shorts, t-shirt and no shoes / socks…!
As others say, I think it is more about behaviour than attire.17th December 2015 at 13:33 #451182
I have a metal hip, which sets off every airport metal detector in the world, and frankly the easiest way to get through Heathrow without being sexually assaulted too much by security is to try and be as naked as possible, which really means t-shirt and shorts in as many weathers as physically bearable. That then means I’m wearing what Qantas would term “head to toe gym wear”. I’m bemused as to why people would care what I’m wearing in an airline lounge or on a plane – it’s nobody’s business but my own, provided there are no offensive messages. I would draw the line at flip flops/thongs, as I really don’t want to see/smell anyone’s feet. In fact, I remember being barred from the lounge in the Renaissance Hong Kong for wearing the complimentary slippers when far too hungover to get dressed properly for breakfast – and sent back to put some shoes on.
I will admit to being embarrassed years ago when I was travelling home from Belo Horizonte, and the 3/4 length trackies I had put on started to rip when I got to the airport there, and by the time I was at GRU they were showing my entire thigh. It got even more embarrassing when they called me in the lounge to upgrade me to F and I showed the lounge staff most of my underpants in return.17th December 2015 at 15:03 #451183
I wonder how Qantas lounge staff would react if you entered the lounge in one set of acceptable clothing and then changed whilst in the lounge…into what is deemed unacceptable
Would they try and throw you out…?17th December 2015 at 19:22 #451184
Arrogance is insecurity with a hard (and usually obnoxious) mask on.
Not to be confused with confidence.
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