IAG Capital Markets Day 2018
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Tom OtleyKeymasterAlways interesting to read.
http://www.iagshares.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=240949&p=irol-presentations
Which are you?
2 Nov 2018
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Tom OtleyKeymaster… and more on the A350…
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2 Nov 2018
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rfergusonParticipantThanks Tom, interesting.
The ‘grow – seat count’ for CW and WTP seems to tie in with what a friend working on the A350 project tells me. HUGE CW cabin, HUGE WTP cabin, small WT cabin.
I wonder when they will publicly release a ‘glimpse’ of the new CW seats? Considering the first aircraft will arrive fitted with them in around eight months time. Most airlines do a media blitz way in advance of that. LH has already released what they will have as their new business class – starting 2020!
2 Nov 2018
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Mark CaswellKeymasterAround the same time that Virgin will start releasing details of its new Upper Class on the A350-1000…
Virgin Atlantic’s A350-1000s will have an all-new Upper Class seat product
2 Nov 2018
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AMcWhirterParticipant[quote quote=903109]The new CW will be retrofitted on the existing long haul fleet (apart from B747s)[/quote]
And the 747s are going to be around for a while (despite today’s high fuel prices).
2 Nov 2018
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rfergusonParticipant[quote quote=903112]Around the same time that Virgin will start releasing details of its new Upper Class on the A350-1000…
Virgin Atlantic’s A350-1000s will have an all-new Upper Class seat product
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Funny that!
Some things never change.
2 Nov 2018
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FrequentTravellerParticipantFrom a quick scan read of all the presentation slides, a few bits of interest to British Airways passengers.
Slide 63, interesting there is no mention of Level having a Gatwick or other UK base. There was rumour a while ago that they might bring Level to Gatwick as a brand to compete with Norwegian. Of course that could still happen in the longer term future.
Slide 107: BA Future expansion to Asia-Pacific, Africa and LACAR.
Slide 108: They see the A350 as the replacement to their B747 fleet.
Slide 109: I assume the bullet points under “Gatwick expansion” mean some short haul destinations currently served from Heathrow will move to Gatwick. But no mention of which routes.
Slide 110: Five Gatwick 777 have the new configuration which was published last year. That’s where the Traveller Plus cabin is expanded and Club class reduced. Remaining Gatwick based 777 aircraft to be done by end of 2019.
Slide 113: New club world seat will allow “Gate-to-gate in flight entertainment”. It’s not stated, but I take that to mean no fold out screens. Screen must be fixed in front of passenger eyes. So that rules out some potential cabin layouts.
Slide 114: 2019 catering and other minor improvements to WT Plus.
Slide 116: “Airside upgrade” via App. I assume this means the chance to upgrade cabin for money having already gone through security prior to boarding.
Slide 135: 2019 “On-demand restaurant style dining”. This is in the IAG section of the presentation. Picture shows Aer Lingus cabin crew. So it’s not clear if this will be brand specific or cross all brands.
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2 Nov 2018
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AMcWhirterParticipant[quote quote=903132]Slide 109: I assume the bullet points under “Gatwick expansion” mean some short haul destinations currently served from Heathrow will move to Gatwick. But no mention of which routes.[/quote]
Some clues here.
2 Nov 2018
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FrequentTravellerParticipantAMcWhirter: Thanks. That’s a shame the Gatwick to Barcelona route is being discontinued. That might explain why a few weeks ago I noticed for August 2019 Gatwick to Barcelona flights were more expensive then Heathrow to Barcelona.
2 Nov 2018
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FlightlevelParticipantPresumably all these PR slides are backed by survey results or are they just theory?
The new CW seats, aisle access, etc. maybe those on the IB A350 which fits the requirement. lt would be practical to buy the same seats for the similar aircraft.
Good to see B747s continue – BA once said to 2024 – since pilots and pax like them and they must be very low cost now, if not efficient!3 Nov 2018
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IanFromHKGParticipantThe second slide is interesting. To summarise the boxes on the right:
1. Optimise First: 8/14 seat cabins
2. CW: Increased seat count, increased floorspace
3. WTP: Increased seat count, increased floorspace
4. WT: Increased seat count, “competitive configuration”Now I think I am right in saying that all BA’s four-class airframes offer 14 seats in First except for the B787-9, which offers 8. Now, even if you take out the “row and a half” which takes you down from 14 seats to 8 in one of the other airframes, I don’t think that gives you a lot more aircraft length to play with. I am guessing 12 feet at most (given that the F seats in the 14-class planes are reverse herringbone and so overlap, and have a stated pitch of 78 inches). And yet with that extra 12 feet they are going to increase the seat count and floorspace of the CW cabin AND increase the seatspace and floorspace of the WTP cabin AND increase the seat count in WT. That WT “competitive configuration” is going to be something to see. And something to avoid…
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