How much worse can it get for Boeing?

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  • cwoodward
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    In delving a little deeper into both Boeing and Airbus available information what is interesting is comparing the quality of the customers in their order books. It seems that the quality of Airbuses book is far superior to that of Boeing’s. By this I mean the likelihood of order cancellations due to the customers downsizing or inability to continue.

    The below information from Airbus web sites.
    April 2020

    Airbus logged net orders in April for nine commercial aircraft from its A320 product line from Avolon.

    By April 30th, Airbus’ gross orders in 2020 totalled 365 aircraft. After cancellations the net orders stand at 299 aircraft.

    During the month, 14 deliveries were made from the A320, A330 and A350 XWB aircraft families.

    Business in April brings the overall total orders logged by Airbus since its creation to 20,407 commercial aircraft, which includes 15,572 A320 Family aircraft, 1,819 A330s, 930 A350 XWBs, 642 A220s and 251 A380s.

    In April, 12 A320neo Family aircraft were delivered. For Airbus widebody aircraft, one A350 XWBs was provided in the A350-900 configuration; along with one A330ceo.

    Among the month’s notable deliveries was the first 100% e-deliveries to Pegasus Airlines.

    Airbus’ backlog of aircraft remaining to be delivered as of 30th April stood at 7,645, comprised 6,217 A320 Family aircraft, 529 A220s, 322 A330s, 568 A350 XWBs and nine A380s.

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    tomwjsimpson
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    Boeing job cuts start to hit 12,000 US workers

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52827377


    IanFromHKG
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    JohnnyG
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    As Boeing announced the loss of a further 258 MAX orders in March and April,

    I wonder how many of us thought when we did the ‘When will the MAX fly again’ poll that it would still be grounded 14 months later?


    ontherunhome
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    With the current situation, I find this odd. making planbes that may never be used. I for one will avoid the Max, as and when I start flying again, so any airline using them will miss my custom. I dont like the 737 anyway, but will fly on the current models as they are relatively safe, compared to Max. They should bring back new 757 and 767 versions to do the job, and keep 737 as short haul.


    IanFromHKG
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    More news as Boeing cuts over 12,000 jobs: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-52827377


    cwoodward
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    Announced yesterday
    Boeing 777x delayed by at least a further year.
    Deliveries now to start March 2022 and that is IF they can get the aircraft certified.

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