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  • MartynSinclair
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    Bringing your jet into Heathrow, still retains status over using the other peripheral airports. It would be be far more cost effective (not that cost ever mattered when you own a 20-50 million $ jet, to land at Farnborough etc and helicopter in to Heathrow, if that was needed.

    Next time you fly from LHR, see the space taken up on the south side of the airport by corporate ranging from mid size Gulfstreams up to Boeing sized jets.


    BeckyBoop
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    “Boeing sized jets” is unnecessary; no idiot would need such a thing to travel in on their own not to forget it’s totally un-environmentally friendly. These can be removed totally for a start as they would take up lots of room and replace with its own deicing bay and in addition the Govt should impose heavier landing charges and taxes for these jets and per individual flying on these planes. xx


    RichHI1
    Participant

    Martyn, what is the position at LCY. Thinking of Status, I would have thought for a finance exec landing at LCY would show such. Can Gulfstreams, Dassaults, Bombardiers etc land there? Are there restrictions on runway length or parking?


    DisgustedofSwieqi
    Participant

    becky

    But when a gulf prince wants to arrive at LHR in his private A340 or B747, what do you say then?

    Hint, you need the oil 🙂


    TerryMcManus24
    Participant

    Could improve things at LHR by having a blanket ban of any aircraft carrying say less than 450 passengesr.

    That would restrict the airport to Airlines flying in say 747-8s.. and A380s but for at least a few years it might give us a breather/ chance to built a 3rd runway and or get Borises Island.(like)up and running.

    There would need to be a few adjustments both physically and mentally..but if say a country wants to access LHR they they would only get the slots with one of the above super fuel efficent,silent ..eco friendly “Jumbos”

    Servicing.. loading…maint ..cleaning ..refuelling de icing and turnaround would all be so much simpler with only the 2 types of aircraf tto deal with.

    This would of course also mean than domestic flights would be restricted to Gatwick,Luton,Stansted,Biggin Hill etc although smaller international arrivals/depts could also be catered for as well.,,,and spread the load.

    Gotta do summit. other wise this shambles will go on for the next …what.. 20 -30 years..


    BeckyBoop
    Participant

    Disgusted perhaps something like…

    “Your Highness,

    In pursuit of improving our current facilities to five star standards, London’s Heathrow Airport is currently not accepting Private or State jets due to ongoing maintenance. However we are pleased to advise we have five alternative airports Gatwick, Luton, Stanstead, London City & Farnborough, all of which are in close proximity to Central London with excellent facilities and transport links across the UK. Alternatively the UK offers an excellent five star experience with our national airline British Airways and would be able to cater to your needs with their New First seat and award winning lounges.

    We look forward to welcoming you on your next state visit to the UK very soon .

    Yours sincerely,

    BeckyBoop xx”


    DisgustedofSwieqi
    Participant

    Becky

    That is hilarious 🙂


    RichHI1
    Participant

    More likely ” Proceed to Ockham and hold maintaining 120.”


    MartynSinclair
    Participant

    @ 07/02/2012 11:45 GMT

    LCY can handle Falcons and some of the smaller Gulfstreams. Bigger issue is t/o weight and the special training needed for the steep approach. Quite a lot of biz jet movements.

    With regards to the “green” comment about Boeing sized business jets, I think their may be a little shock horror to hear that a certain owner of a premiership football club, flies his 777 into the UK for day trips, to see most home games. I am led to believe that the jet uses Stansted and not Heathrow.

    There are several BBJ’s and A318/9 in biz jet config flying about with 2 or 3 passengers per sector. May be environmentally unfriendly, but it does create jobs!

    On the other hand, there are lots of biz jets in the States that offer spare seats (no cost) to cancer patients who need to be travel for treatment.


    RichHI1
    Participant

    Thanks Martyn. I find the comments about Private Jets and cancer patients very heartwarming. Surely the size and type of aircraft used is based on the journey type and length (fuel and ETOPS) not just number of pax. I know I hate the narrow body 757’s to Hawaii and would not want to cross the Atlantic in A 757 or 318/19/20/21.


    ChrisBuda82
    Participant

    My good mate’s mum co owns a plane with Netjets it a long haul one that can fly to India non stop, they had the option to use LHR but chosse Northhaut (cant spell it) due to it being faster to use than LHR.


    MartynSinclair
    Participant

    There are a few of types of jet owners.

    Those that work up from single props and either self fly or hire an instructor to fly safely with them on trips lasting 1 – 4 hours.

    You then get the serious corporate who can justify private jet travel with his/her board and to his shareholders. These types generally go into the ins and outs of the costings verses the typical sector length verses typical passenger loads and sway towards a manufacturer, Cessna, Gulfstream etc.

    Then you get the seriously wealthy of which there are probably less than 1000 in the world who have so much wealth they can afford to buy based on looks alone! The larger Boeing sized jets can run to amounts of $60 – 70 million ++. Running costs amount to around 18 – 23% of acquisition costs a year.

    At the top end, the owners live a world so far removed from reality, where jets can be sent to transport pets or collect a take away. The previous comment about being Green must be weighed against the number of jobs these guys (as the majority or men) create. Seeing an owner utilize a 12 seater jet to either go to Paris or New York, alone, you do think what a waste, but there again, part of that waste goes in several people’s pockets!!

    Net Jets is totally different, its a time share jet ownership program. You buy hours in a set size of jet and then order the aircraft in much the same way as you order a taxi. Guaranteed availability in a few hours.

    Taking a private jet into Heathrow can be time consuming in terms of aircraft access from terminal and departure / arrival slots.

    My favorite UK airport for jet charter is Luton. From stepping out of the car, you can be moving in less than 5 minutes.


    BeckyBoop
    Participant

    Discusted, what was wrong with my letter!?!?!? 🙁 x

    Martyn wow you sound like a pro when it comes to private jets do you use them alot? I know about Abramovitch has a plane, good to see he doesnt use LHR . Sadly both the big Arsenal owners have there own planes as well not sure where they fly into though. Yes Luton is actually quite good however i still prefer Farnborugh. Not that i have flown from there but i have greeted and collected visitors. If you get the chance give it a try. xx


    DisgustedofSwieqi
    Participant

    Becky

    A nice way of putting it would be that you have a naively realistic view of the Arab world 🙂

    Martyn

    Last time I saw RA’s personal jet, it was a 767 – has he upgraded to a tripler?


    MartynSinclair
    Participant

    It could have been the spare!

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