Garuda… Back into London again?!!

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  • capetonianm
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    Information in the GDSs is that LHR DPS is indefinite (at least up to system horizon which is 361 days).

    GA 087 4 LHR 4 DPS I 2155 2115+1 0 07FEB19 773 16:20
    GA 087 26 LHR 4 DPS I 2155 2130+1 0 05MAR19 773 16:35

    The westbound service operates CGK LHR
    GA 086 246 CGK 3 LHR 4 1205 2000 0 05MAR19 773 13:55

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    AMcWhirter
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    Judging by the timings it looks like a non-stop flight.

    I expect GA will be aiming at cost-conscious travellers.

    There is already so much indirect competition from Europe.

    Not only the Gulf carriers but also those based in Asia.

    Consider that SIA alone operates *seven* daily SIN-DPS flights some of which will connect with its European services coming into SIN.


    AMcWhirter
    Participant

    Airlineroute posted details a few mins ago.

    https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/282306/garuda-adds-one-way-london-heathrow-denpasar-service-from-late-jan-2019/

    With LHR-DPS I believe Garuda will be able to claim it operates the second longest (non-stop) flight out of Heathrow.


    AMcWhirter
    Participant

    Dutch media reporting that Garuda intends to market Denpasar to local travellers.

    It intends to fly them to London with KLM to connect with Garuda’s forthcoming LHR-DPS service.


    MarcusGB
    Participant

    Just checking Garuda site, and it seems certainly in March 19, the LHR 3x weekly flights will be directly to DPS not Jakarta.
    This completely wipes out their connections to Sydney, as the extra flight time, leaves about 50 minutes connection in DPS.

    Sadly, with recent events in Indonesia with the natural events, several areas have been brought into concern about travelling to Indonesia. In Australia, caution is brought to people’s minds for travel to at this time, so i cannot see that a direct route to the Centre of where that activity remains, will be very popular.
    The turn around times, means that this flight is constantly late, I arrived into LHR an hour late some weeks agai ex CGK. So the turn around would have been 2 hrs later than timetabled.
    The Aircraft was also not clean, appeared in a poor state of repair, had broken IFE systems, poor food standards, and chaotic service on this already long 15hr flight.
    It was very unpleasant.

    Again i cannot see Garuda (changing around yet again), surviving out of London, with a direct flight to DPS.
    The Dutch from AMS, will continue to use the daily 773 KLM flight, which is at good times, daily, and a far better standard, more reliable, and returns from around £1,750.


    capetonianm
    Participant

    This the performance of that flight from FR24 since 13DEC18. To be fair, that’s not bad.

    FR has it wrong, shows as LHRCGK.


    AMcWhirter
    Participant

    Just checking Garuda site, and it seems certainly in March 19, the LHR 3x weekly flights will be directly to DPS not Jakarta.

    Thanks for posting, Marcus.

    In which case it’s yet another change from Garuda.

    According to Routesonline (see link above) LHR-DPS was supposed to start end January.

    If and when it does start this route will be the second longest non-stop service ex-LHR.


    MarcusGB
    Participant

    I was flying back Ex Sydney around Xmas, so took the time to go into their Sydney office.
    Then beginning of December 18, they were hoping that the flights would be starting to London, as been put off twice until 15th December they stated.

    I was due to fly 21st changed to 24 ex Syd, and returned on the then scheduled 27th flight CGK-LHR.
    At that time, there were no bookings on their system directly LHR – CGK, either from the staff at the office, Airport, or on their on line public booking system.

    Again, i cannot see the Dutch or AMS travellers coming backwards to LHR to take a direct flight, when KLM with 1 stop, adds about 1.30hrs to the flight, rather than a good
    5 hrs+ in and out of LHR. The current instability geologically in Indonesia does not add this to be a great demand flight.
    The Many Business passengers that went onwards to Australia, now make this impossible. with connections that will not even make the same day down there, and certainly you have to stay overnight on the way back.
    So a fair part of their customers taking these flights in their now 2 class 3 weekly service, in my view, will not last long.

    Their service has severely gone downhill also, and all this constant shifting about, means a loss for a good Business (Was), and great First, (now removed), a loss of Skyteam.
    Connecting to DPS means Not into their Country hub, or very few regional possibilities.
    Not long before we see them pulling out of London again…

    Without exception, their Skytrax rating should be downgraded to 3.
    CGK Airport (as displayed in their brand new terminal, has also been graded as a 3 Star Skytrax rating, for the Terminal only opened about a year.
    The runway remains in an awful pot holed rough, visibly poor repair, one of the worst i have ever used, so no change their either.

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