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Anonymous25 Sep 2011
On Monday, the benchmark values will be announced (http://ec.europa.eu/clima/news/articles/news_2011092301_en.htm). Which airlines will be in and which one will be out is probably a question of fleet’s age… Any thought? And bet?25 Sep 2011
Beyond the fact lawyers could become richer, and back to the initial question, which airlines will be in and which one will be out is probably a question of fleet’s age… Any thought?1 Oct 2011
Looks like all foreign carriers will have to pay for their carbon pollution in the EU, an adviser to the bloc’s top court has found, in a setback to a legal challenge from US airlines.7 Oct 2011
As will the pigs that fly past. Whethet they will be US or Chinese pigs we do not know at this point. EU needs to understand that jobs and security for families come before political posturing. It will be interesting to see the politics of this one. If Chinese and US carriers are told to cancel Airbus orders or both governments impose penalties on UK and european carriers. It is too stupid for words in the middle of the greatest economic downturn for years for these clowns in Brussels to start a trade war. This is not about carbon emissions it is about some Eurocrats on fat expenses with no need to tighten their purse strings trying to show how important they are, and hot news they aren’t.7 Oct 2011
I see from today’s news the Europeans are pressig ahead with this unfair tax. As an independent businessman I find it incredible that the EU wishes to act now to increase travel costs and hinder international trade and growth. As with the banking taxes what makea sense if implemented in a global uniform way by the appropriate global forum is destructive when implementwd unilaterally in attempt to sabre rattle.
My question is how can those of us who oppose this (and I know some support it) best lobby against it? As a lawyer by training I do not believe in any form or illegal activity or attempts to create a breach of the peace. To date i am posting my view that the EU should refer the matter to the ICAO or relevant body and boycotting all non Uk made products marked made in EU. It seems odd looking for made in China labels though some of the Israeli and latin American fruit ans veg is much better.
Keen to know any other ideas posters have.21 Dec 2011
What is so absurd is that it doesn’t stop pollution. It just means you can pollute if you pay, or if you can find a clever way to offset it, which is what many companies do.
Otherwise you pass the costs on to the public who will turn to US or Chinese products as they are cheaper not being burdened by ETS schemes and despite the energy they use to transport goods across oceans. It’s all quite ludicrous.21 Dec 2011
It does appear that the EU is obsessed with political ideals rather than looking after the needs of its nations’ populations. The bigger any organization, the more detached it becomes from reality. If one looks at large countries like US and Brazil they devolve power to states. As China develops there is a move to localize. Yet EU goes the other way.21 Dec 2011
Yes, that’s the plan. More and more centralised power. The EU is the enemy of its member states.
“Its purpose is to strip European countries of their residual political independence and sovereignty, and to usurp and absorb them within itself. It is indeed, as the Author demonstrates, ‘the enemy of its Member States'”
Essential reading!21 Dec 2011
You’ll love this Rich. The French agreed to the siting of the EU Parliament in Brussels on the condition the EU Parliament sat in Strasbourg for 13 weeks a year. Fair enough you may say. 9 months Belgium and 3 in France.
Except what this translates into is 3 weeks Brussels and 1 week in Strasbourg. So, every 3rd Friday every MP, assistant and officials, put their papers and belongings into a large trunk, and a large fleet of trucks then leaves Brussels for Strasbourg with their effects. This is then repeated for the return a week later.
Think of the carbon emissions emitted for that run 12 times a year?22 Dec 2011