easyJet: Stelios Reportedly Establishing Rival FastJet
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RichHI1ParticipantI am told Stelios opposed the purchase of Airbus equipment. Is this really the future of Luton to Glasgow?
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Shame they did not correct the French registration on underwing.
27 Sep 2011
at 10:24
conair346Participant“Far better than the Ryan Air model of cramming everyone one in and ensuring you only sit in your allocated seat, ensuring that empty rows REMAIN empty to help the aircraft cleaners for a faster turn around.” MartynSinclair
This might be the only time I come to defend FR as I despise a lot about it and its operation… Blocking of seat rows on FR is not for a quicker turn around or easier cleaning – in fact giving passengers less space to move means it takes longer to get adjusted when sitting down or preparing to disembark.
The actual reason for blocking the rows is for when there are 129 or less passengers, rows 3-8 and rear 4 are blocked, to give the aircraft a better trim. According to the FR manuals each aircraft weighs the same before adding fuel, pax, catering etc – which is never the case. Every aircraft has a different weight it could be 500g’s or 50kg but every one is different – however FR have been allowed to say their whole fleet weighs one of two weights, and their load sheets are very simple and quick to complete, they are manual to save costs and time trying to print or find a working computer terminal etc.
Its frankly amazing how the loadsheet works as it has none of the typical graphs or charts, its all index points. The fleet standard weights and index points work fantastically. Hence to satisfy Boeing, CAA, IAA etc they must make some concessions such as blocking a few rows off to make the weight more central and balance the aircraft better.Flybe allocate seats and so can do this prior to boarding, or while preparing to leave the gate.
U2 may not do it as the Airbus aircraft have been designed to be aerodynamically stable and controlled by computers. Boeing are aerodynamically unstable thereby easier to control by hand as is the case.
Other airlines also plan the aircraft seating and can change as needed. It’s only because of the perceived lack of choice when boarding do you think its an issue.Anyways, I wish Stelios all the best for his new venture and I’m quite excited to see it come to fruition whatever shape of an airline it takes.
27 Sep 2011
at 10:55
robsmith100ParticipantI am quite intrigued as to how this will work. I strongly suspect Stelios has found a new business model and is looking to bridge the gap between LCC and Premium services. I wonder if the competition commission or the legal binding that he has with the easyJet/group will allow him to continue as it currently stands. It wouldnt surprise me if he is forced to sell off his entire stake from easyJet or the group in order to continue with this venture. I wonder if the “red” signifes a possible partnership with Virgin and if so together they will go forward with a bid for BMI?
27 Sep 2011
at 11:55
LeTigreParticipantBucksnet, here’s the list prices courtesy of Wikipedia.
A318: US$65.2 million, €58 million
A319: US$77.7 million, €70 million
A320: US$85.0 million, €79 million
A321: US$99.7 million, €95 millionIt does indeed appear that he can buy a whole plane (not sure about the seats though) but may not have enough funds to maintain an office.
27 Sep 2011
at 12:11
everhopefulParticipantit was daddy who gave him five million and as was the case both modelled on american discounters one being south west
27 Sep 2011
at 19:20
BucksnetParticipantFastjet will be a transatlantic long haul airline to take on BA and Virgin: –
I thought one of the comments was funny – He should register it in the British Virgin Islands and call it: ‘British Virgin Airlines’
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