Definition of Transit
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SimaHirParticipantI was planning to be in BKK for 18 hours so booked a day return to Yangon, Myanmar. The Myanmar embassy website (UK) states when in transit a visa is obtainable upon arrival.
Air Asia refused to let me board, saying that transit means going from A-B-C and not A-B-A and without a visa I could not travel.
Does anyone know what the legal position is since Air Asia have refused to refund me hence I may now involve my credit card (legal team)?
Thanks
19 Nov 2012
at 14:11
Binman62ParticipantSimon…I would have assumed that transit ment not leaving the airport and getting off one aircraft and either getting back on the same one or another. So Air Asia were probably correct.
Transit of the UK is also allowed without a visa but one would not be allowed to land and visit London….unless one did not require a visa to begin with.
I think the issue here is one of definition. Passengers look at transit as a stop where as the authorities see it as just that, a transit of the airport.
A bit like direct flights and and non stop flights.
19 Nov 2012
at 14:17
ImissConcordeParticipantOn the journey A-B-C B is a connection point. Provided not leaving the transit area documents are not normally required. On the journey A-B-A B is the point of turnaround and the passenger would have to comply with government requirements to enter that country.
19 Nov 2012
at 14:33
FormerlyDoSParticipantSimon
“Air Asia refused to let me board, saying that transit means going from A-B-C and not A-B-A and without a visa I could not travel.”
This is also my understanding, sorry 🙁
“If indeed transit requires one to remain air-side/in the airport, surely there would be no need for any visa at all”
Non sequitur, some countries require a visa even for airside transit.
Australia, for one
19 Nov 2012
at 14:39
SimonS1ParticipantYes my understanding is the same. A transit visa is provided where there is a long delay between your arrival and onward connecting flight.
I wouldn’t class a day trip to somewhere (which is effectively what you were trying to do) as being in transit. In fact sometimes the airline can be fined in such circumstances which presumably is why you were denied boarding.
19 Nov 2012
at 18:14
LuganoPirateParticipantI’m afraid I also have to say Air Asia was correct in this case. Transit is usually arriving in B from and and continuing on the next available flight to C. What you were trying to do was make a day trip.
Further, if people arriving in transit were allowed to leave the airport and visit without a visa, for nationals who normally need a visa, this would effectively amount to a back door into the country.
Having said that, there are one or two countries that issue a day visa on the spot depending on nationality and providing certain conditions are fulfilled – though for the life of me I can’t recall who they are just now!
19 Nov 2012
at 23:24
AnthonyDunnParticipantSurprisingly, bearing in mind just how much of a police state it is, you can get transit visas for up to 24 hours when passing through Beijing – and presumably other Chinese transit points such as Shanghai – assuming that you have the ticket for the onwards connection. I am not aware of any restrictions to this depending upon the passport held.
20 Nov 2012
at 08:34
LuganoPirateParticipantJust thinking Anthony, perhaps because it’s such a police state, they’re not too worried about finding the person and then throwing them out!
20 Nov 2012
at 10:05
canuckladParticipantYour mistake Simon, was to book a point to point flight .
I’m sure Air Asia is legally obliged to ensure correct landing documentation at point of departure.
Many years ago, on the way to OZ for my best friends wedding, a few of us flew EDI/AMS/DPS/SYD ( On a through ticket) which involved a 2 night stopover in Bali whilst transiting to SYD.
My mate was refused boarding at AMS because his UK passport had less than 6 months before renewal, even though i final destination didn’t require the 6 month rule!
I have transited through quite a few places and gone airside if timings allowed, i’ve got to say, never been brave enough to jump on another plane and fly to another country though!! Or try too 🙂
20 Nov 2012
at 10:18 -
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