BA strikers to lose travel perks

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  • MartynSinclair
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    Geohoveuk

    “Additionally, there is the constant threat of suspension/sacking through an ambience of Nazi-style communication between all on-board crew members… afraid to speak-up for fear of consequence”.

    If your statement were true, it would mean BA management issuing orders to round up cabin crew and take them away for execution in the gas chambers and work others in the concentration camps. It would mean BA cabin crew having all rights taken away and there freedom removed. I t would also mean that all relatives and anyone associated with them suffering a similar fate.

    I for one find your comparison extremley offensive and would appreciate you maintaining your creative jornalistic skills in a more appropriate manner.

    Martyn Sinclair


    MartynSinclair
    Participant

    Freedom of speech is an entitlement in Britain, but where it offends, it can still be an offence. Try telling a racial jole at work and as we saw a couple of weeks ago, a man commited suicide!

    References to “Nazi styles” have far wider implications than freedom of speech!

    I accept that no offence was intended trust you accept my comments in the manner they were intended.


    MartynSinclair
    Participant

    i agree Geo, this is a public forum but that does not mean i am able to use terms that are socially unacceptable. I would not refer to a black person as a “nigger” or describe a homosexual as “poof”. In the same vain, it is just as unacceptable to use the term “Nazi” in a context where quite clerly it is inappropriate. Please educate yourself on the meaning of the word NAZI and understand the meaning to the far wider number of people, other then the 6 million that were murdered. To term BA management as using “Nazi style” is way out of context.

    If you ever go to Israel go and visit Yad Vashem – then you may understand.

    Martyn Sinclair


    JonathanCohen09
    Participant

    Geohoveuk,

    I am sorry but Martyn’s scrutiny is not harsh at all. Please be very careful how and when you make comparisons to the ‘Nazis’ or ‘Nazi styles’. As the grandchild of a survivor, my family was directly affected by what the ‘Nazis’ did during the second WW.

    Like Martyn, I am sure that you meant no offence, i am simply suggesting that in this case your comparison is totally inappropriate and therefore in my opinion that is why Martyn’s scrutiny was not harsh at all.

    Safe travels everyone,

    Jonathan


    VintageKrug
    Participant

    I would strongly recommend a trip to Yad Vashem http://www.yadvashem.org , and indeed closer to home the Imperial War Museum has an excellent exhibition:

    http://london.iwm.org.uk/server/show/nav.00b005

    Well worth learning more, and then deciding for yourself whether such comments are appropriate.


    JonathanCohen09
    Participant

    VK,

    thank you very much for your last post, I should have thought of it myself.

    I have been to Yad Vashem many times and recently saw the exhibition at the Imperial War Museum. It is indeed excellent.

    Best to all,

    Jonathan


    VintageKrug
    Participant

    I suppose it’s noy just the strikers who may lose travel perks; here is an excellent Alex cartoon which as ever cuts to the heart of the matter:

    http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01636/Alex14_05_10_1636631a.gif


    VintageKrug
    Participant

    Not sure where this leaves those who took strike action now; if the action was illegal, they could lose a lot more than staff travel….which would be a shame for all concerned.


    billyfreedom
    Participant

    Geo, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

    I left BA just over a decade ago and was one of the ‘miscellaneous’ . I am pretty certain and happy that my job was worthwhile and needed, as was many of my colleagues in similar ‘miscellaneous’ roles.

    Also, do you have any idea how much cost has progressively been taken out of the company since privatisation? Obviously not. The employee structure and cost base today is unrecognisable from the 70s and 80s. If it is still bloated now there are no words to describe how fat it must have been before privatisation.

    Dear oh dear


    billyfreedom
    Participant

    Geo, are you suggesting that BA should change its business model to be more like easyjet?


    VintageKrug
    Participant

    Walsh’s priorities are certainly not aligned with yours, geo.

    Were you to be CEO of BA, what would your priorities be?

    Do tell.


    JonathanCohen09
    Participant

    Hello VK,

    a very good question which I think we have asked Geo several times. Perhaps this time he will share his thinking with us.


    NTarrant
    Participant

    Still not answering the question Geo, that is the trouble with Champagne Socialists, no business sense


    JonathanCohen09
    Participant

    Geo,

    let me make this as simple as possible. You are clearly very unhappy with the way that WW and his team are running the airline, we all get that loud and clear.

    Can you please then tell us, if you were the CEO of BA what would you do? It is manifestly unfair of you to continually attack BA’s management and there handling of the situation while refusing to tell us what you would do differently to make things better.

    Please answer the question as there re many of us who are genuinely interested in what your solution would be.

    I would go as far as to suggest that if you are not prepared to offer your solution to the problem then you should stop posting your attacks on WW and his team!


    billyfreedom
    Participant

    Geo, the ‘miscellaneous’ department I worked in had 240 staff when BA was privatised. It had 110 when I left a decade ago. It has 25 now.

    I’m afraid the facts just dont support your views. There is a large school of thought, which can be backed up objectively, that its the Cabin Crew who have not had to take as much pain as the rest of the airline until now. This may come as a big surprise to you and you may find it impossible to accept. But please dont bleat that BA management are victinmising Cabin Crew and that its only Cabin Crew who are having to change. Its simply not true.

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