BA long-haul – where to next & with what? Winter 2015/16+
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TheLionParticipantRemoving First from their LHR 772s seems like a strategy with little logic. A large aircraft with no First means lots more WT seats to fill. It may make sense on some routes, but not on all.
Ok so maybe they are planning to use their new 789s on those 4-class 772 routes with premium demand. However these are smaller aircraft.
They then leave no room for the growth that will come, particularly as a third runway is in all probability 11-12 years off. This situation dovetails Delhi, where they clearly wanted to cut seat count and therefore hike prices and thus improve yields.
@amc1234 / Speedbird189
Totally agree re the awful cabins on LGW fleet. Will add my thoughts on that later as am a bit busy this arvo…6 Nov 2015
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Speedbird189Participant@scott72
I believe this is in from IAG Capital Markets day. Seems to be some information on BA source regarding the changes.
6 Nov 2015
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AndrewinHKParticipantYes @speedbird189 is correct it is from the horses mouth, IAG capital markets day. Wifi on 90% of longhaul aircraft by 2019 too.
6 Nov 2015
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TheLionParticipantIAG capital markets day thread on Flyertalk:
Link to slides:
Must dash, laters 🙂
6 Nov 2015
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Speedbird189Participant789 to Seoul increases capacity and re-introduces F to to the route, I’m surprised that Shanghai has been downgraded to the 789 from 77W.
6 Nov 2015
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FCTravellerParticipantThe removal of F on 727-200’s is worrying. I wonder how this will translate in the number of routes where F will be dropped.
Finally a commitment on WIFI but they are coming to the party a bit too late. They should have realised a long time ago that WIFI is a draw for business customers who are their bread and butter. I flew round trip transatlantic on Lufthansa in F last month for the first time ever. In addition to WIFI, they top BA on the ground and at every other level. If I can work whilst flying, then I don’t mind the extra leg via FRA. If BA are starting to lose clients like myself, then I’m afraid they are doing something wrong.
6 Nov 2015
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batterytravellerParticipantAn interesting thing to note in that presentation – A350s will have a common configuration across the three full service IAG brands, which raises all sorts of questions.
7 Nov 2015
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MartynSinclairParticipant“Wifi on 90% of longhaul aircraft by 2019” – again BA would have missed the boat. By 2019 the competition will have introduced something far more innovative.
Onboard wifi has been around since ca. 2005!
7 Nov 2015
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mkcol74Participant@batterytraveller I spotted that too & wonder if they’ll have the same seat type in each cabin, in particular could this be when they launch a brand new Club World seat? Would be a shame if they missed this opportunity (again).
7 Nov 2015
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AndrewinHKParticipantMany of the worlds biggest airlines have no wifi onboard, however more and more have announced it will be introduced as major fleet renewal starts, CX for example will introduce wifi when the a350 arrives . BA stated they wanted to wait to see if the technology was proven and also if demand existed. Do most people pick to fly with a carrier because it has wifi, no. Will that feature more in people’s travel preferences by 2019 yes. Has having wifi onboard made Lufthansa a successful highly profitable business, no.
7 Nov 2015
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CheeryguyParticipantOn board wifi, not fussed one way or the other. If it’s there and free or reasonably priced then fine, but it’s not a game changer for me. Not so many years ago the same fuss was made about phones at the seats or bulkheads.
The 777ER config change, I suspect they are referring to the small subfleet of 9 four class hulls at LHR. They are used for all the long range work. Time will tell.
7 Nov 2015
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