BA long-haul – where to next & with what? Winter 2015/16+
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rfergusonParticipantMkcol you are correct – SAN used to be a tag on to the PHX route on the 747.
Battery traveller unfortunately the loads you experienced seem to be the norm on the CTU route. Kind of understandable why BA’s new routes tend to be ‘sure things’ instead of taking a chance.
17 Sep 2015
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rfergusonParticipantFreight isn’t isn’t too bad but it its predominantly one way (CTU-LHR).
BA have said they are in ‘for the long haul’ with the CTU route. The economics of the 787 probably make it just sustainable. The route will transfer to Mixed Fleet soon so will also benefit from lower crewing costs.
17 Sep 2015
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AnthonyDunnParticipant@ rferguson – 17/09/2015 09:28 BST
And having made so much play of using the BD purchase to free up slots to Asia-Pacific and other long-haul destinations, it would be a tad “difficult” to then withdraw from almost the only new route to that part of the world within a year or so of having started flying there.
17 Sep 2015
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sparkyflierParticipantThe Lion you were right about another carrier that wanted to start San Jose California, and so BA announced earlier than they Intended. The carrier was…..
Lufthansa!
They will be launching with A340-300, and start the week before BA does!
Another piece of information re Tehran, Lufthansaa re increasing capacity on their FRA route from A340-600 to 744, such is demand.
Any other news, insight or developments out there?
15 Oct 2015
at 09:32
TheLionParticipant@sparkyflyer
Yup just saw that this morning. Didn’t really expect that prediction to come so soon! However apparently the tech bubble has burst, or so Forbes are reporting:
But then just three days later, same publication different scenario:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/miguelhelft/2015/10/14/what-bubble-the-unicorn-boom-has-just-begun
I guess only time will tell if BA & LH started their party too late for the attendees 🙂
15 Oct 2015
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HedgeFundFlyerParticipantI saw in a BA document recently that it will have 16 787-9s by this time next year. Any idea where these will be deployed? Only six routes have been announced so there must be one or two surprises due for winter 16/17.
15 Oct 2015
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AndrewinHKParticipantNot long haul but new BA routes from LHR to Mahon 4x weekly, Palermo 2x and Biaritiz 2x starting 29th/30th of April and May 1st 2016 all with a319.
20 Oct 2015
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AnthonyDunnParticipantDoes anyone have any idea whether, with the egregiously fawning and sycophantic brown-nosing of President Xi Jinping currently underway in London, there are any other routes to the PRC likely to open up soon? Or has the experience of CTU put paid to that idea pro tem?
20 Oct 2015
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TiredOldHackParticipantI think Finnair has got a lot of China nicely covered. And they codeshare with BA, which is nice.
20 Oct 2015
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TheLionParticipantIf I were BA, I’d be working very hard to secure a Chinese codeshare partner for connections, ideally Hainan, although I think they were in discussions with China Eastern. China Southern would be useful too for the below…
I’d then launch flights to Ãœrümqi, Harbin & Fuzhou, none of which have direct flights to Europe. They are all key regional centres.
Ãœrümqi in particular is an excellent location for transfers as it is in slap bang in the middle of Central Asia, so you can fly anywhere in China, plus it’s in an interesting region to visit for a stopover.
Later on Xi’an, Wuhan, Kunming & Guangzhou would be my additions as they are all major regional centres with large populations. They also fill the large gaps in said Chinese regions. However they all currently have European service so time is needed for those markets to mature. One day…
@amc1234
Great new routes, yet more gaps plugged. I was hoping for Valencia and they did it. Now these latest three destinations plug yet more gaps. The odd German city, Nantes, Balkans, Ankara and northern Norway next, plus a few others, and we are complete for Europe I’d say.@HedgeFundFlyer
On Flyertalk there is an extremely useful and interesting master tracker chart about BA retirements & new aircraft, updated regularly. I’ll try dig out the link and share it for you all if you haven’t already seen it.I created a chart myself based on this which matches retirement dates to new aircraft EIS, with the result that you can see how many additional long haul aircraft they will have free for potential new routes and increased frequencies
The results will surprise you and a lot of others I feel. Now I need to find it as it seems to have vanished when I looked!!
20 Oct 2015
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sparkyflierParticipantRe Tehran it seems Austrian are doubling their frequency and more than doubling capacity to it seems twice daily… BA need to move on this.
On a separate note, I read Aer Lingus, IAGs new member, may be looking at Hartford, CT. I have mooted this before, andd it seems a smart move, likely using 757…
20 Oct 2015
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