BA 777 Vegas-Gatwick on fire – passengers safe
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canuckladParticipantFirstly the QF incident….. The commander chose not to evacuate, deeming that his passengers would be safer on-board whilst the emergency services secured the apron. If memory serves me, they were on board for quite a considerable time whilst the fire services tried to stop the engine with water ?
Back to the engines and the FAA directive……
And unless I’m missing something here, the engines in this incident where not part of this directive, as the specific part (compressor) concerned was older and of a different design.And Simon, you’re right. Thankfully most of us haven’t had to evacuate. Personally there’s been a couple of occasions when I was expecting to be shown the brace position and all that goes with it…but I’ve never been tested to see how I would personally re-act. But I’m sure airlines /aviation industry have conducted research into how groups of people respond. Was watching a documentary on the sinking of the Wilhelm Gustav last night and a company using behavioural software accurately predicted the survival rate.
17 Sep 2015
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MrDarwinParticipantWith regards to aircraft certification and evacuations within X seconds/minutes, I’m left wondering about the integrity of such tests and how they are conducted.
Are the tests performed based on 100% fully compliant passengers who follow the crew’s instructions to the T? Or do they allow for a human element in terms of reactions to stressful/dangerous situations, e.g. do they factor in time for passengers freezing up (blocking aisles), taking luggage with them etc.?
Airlines are removing toilets and reconfiguring aircraft to maximise passenger numbers on planes of all shapes and sizes. As they do so I just wonder about the safety of cramming in even more non-compliant pasengers.
17 Sep 2015
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MartynSinclairParticipantNice to see the Captain speaking his mind.. where cabin crew are unable.. or perhaps it’s due to his impending retirement. I missed the LBC interview, but here is the report from Sky News..
BA and airlines take note…!
http://news.sky.com/story/1554989/ba-engine-fire-pilot-criticises-passengers
18 Sep 2015
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ba747fan1ParticipantI don’t think any of us can say how we could react in such a situation and so I think people should stop criticising passengers who were probably scared! And luckily the flight was Gatwick crew who had experience and not the mixed fleet who fly the lhr vegas route and who are inexperienced and so we should just be happy the lgw crew made all safe.
19 Sep 2015
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LuganoPirateParticipantMrMichael, the thought never entered my mind 😉
Anthony, yes, I read that. Mrs. LP was there just after the fire happened and her flight was delayed. I believe the rebuilding contract has already been awarded to a firm with certain connections!
19 Sep 2015
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FDOS_UKParticipantopenfly – 19/09/2015 07:12 BST
Yes, it was a team effort, as the captain made clear in interviews.
Having heard the interview, though, it was all achieved under his leadership and I can understand why the crew would have followed the lead of this captain, who struck me as being an impressive individual.
19 Sep 2015
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FDOS_UKParticipantopenfly – 19/09/2015 19:57 BST
If interested, you can find the interview on here:
19 Sep 2015
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AnthonyDunnParticipant@ Flyerboy1 – 17/09/2015 12:12 BST
I don’t recall ever having made any kind of derogatory comments about the performance of BA cabin crew – quite the reverse in fact. My criticisms have been entirely of those selfish passengers who chose to put themselves and their own convenience before those of other passengers in a potentially life-threatening situation.
To demonstrate that BA does (despite all appearances to the contrary) have a sense of humour about itself and the training required to make the grade as BA cabin crew, PamAnn on what it takes:
28 Sep 2015
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YellowBellyParticipantDoes anyone have an update on this plane? Is it scrap or recoverable?
21 Oct 2015
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TiredOldHackParticipantScrap, according to, er, a well-placed source.
An old aircraft and the fire burned a damn great hole in the fuselage.
22 Oct 2015
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MartynSinclairParticipantA JAL evacuation reported on Sky News.
http://news.sky.com/video/1646956/passengers-evacuate-flight-in-snow
A few passengers still appear to have left the aircraft with luggage..
Another reason why passengers MUST listen to the safety briefing.
23 Feb 2016
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Poshgirl58ParticipantAircraft has been repaired by Boeing. New engine fitted, so if runs go well next week then the ferry flight will follow shortly after.
23 Feb 2016
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