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  • openfly
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    That’s the EU for you. Turning a blind eye to Alitalia’s government subsidies….billions and billions of Euros. It’s no wonder that the U.K. voted out when such blatant cronyism is so visible.


    Flightlevel
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    One of the (many!) reasons we’re leaving the EU is they make rules that only the law abiding UK abides by, most other states ignore them.
    However some of those states are supporting Brexit too, notably Italy and Hungary, so let them break their own rules without us?
    Numerous airlines in the real world are subsidised (Air India to the tune of $6billion, american airlines,etc.) so suppose the EU is just being ‘flexible’.


    canucklad
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    Numerous airlines in the real world are subsidised (Air India to the tune of $6billion, american airlines,etc.) so suppose the EU is just being ‘flexible’.

    Exactly — Chapter 11 in the States is a classic example of this, and seems to be used as a safety net at times by airlines who are frankly mismanaged …..
    It’s also worth remembering that national carriers are usually seen as a window into the soul of the country they represent. I recall reading an article that suggested a mixed feeling of loss, distress and embarrassment when Swissair collapsed.


    alainboy56
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    @canucklad …. Yes I knew/know a hostie/ex hostie for SR and she told me then how they were all so shocked that their beloved airline could be so mismanaged as to fold like it did. You are right, the Swiss as a race, were shocked, dumbfounded and very, very embarrassed.
    She also lost a good friend on SR111, and that also shocked them to the core, again how something could go so very wrong like it did so quickly, and at the end it was put down to pilot error, or rather to be precise, pilot mismanagement of the problem. (i.e. Thinking in a robotic/mechanical way, as opposed to a ‘needs must’ approach).
    With Alitalia the staff ‘could not give a monkey’s’ as they are ‘not Italian’ per se, they are Roman generally, but others are from wherever i.e. Napolitani, Palermitani, Calabrese etc etc. They have no national identity and that behaviour which we see, ie lazy, couldn’t care less attitude (in work anyway), is the way they think about their country.
    So now I invite response from fellow forum contributors on how they may see BA as ‘a window into the soul’ of the UK …. ha ha ha ha – I am waiting! ………..


    ImissConcorde
    Participant

    Cat among pigeons springs to mind!

    Report: Delta Trying to Acquire Alitalia


    JohnnyG
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    AMcWhirter
    Participant

    Soon after introducing its designer uniforms Alitalia has announced a catering upgrade.

    https://www.alitalia.com/it_it/volare-alitalia/news-e-attivita/news/nuovi-servizi-alitalia.html


    transtraxman
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    “Delta-easyJet partnership mooted to bid for Alitalia”, Travel Weekly 11-2-19

    http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/articles/323640/delta-easyjet-partnership-mooted-to-bid-for-alitalia

    I just wonder who will take the 51% of Alitalia that Delta cannot have. Is it going to be the easyjet subsidiary registered in Austria? The Delta investment makes sense when adding it to its investment in Virgin Atlantic but if easyjet participates then would it not also be logical for easyjet to, at least, interline with Virgin Atlantic in the UK?
    On the other hand will easyjet have anything to do with Alitalia? If not which investors would have the nerve to take the plunge with the italian airline? If they were Italian investors would they have the nerve to follow Delta´s restructuring plans and confront the unions, especially when they have their own businesses to look after.
    Quite frankly what does easyjet gain from this?

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    openfly
    Participant

    EasyJet and Delta buying Alitalia…..that should ensure their end!! Bye EasyJet.😟


    transtraxman
    Participant

    Is this the end for Alitalia?

    “EasyJet pulls out of Alitalia privatisation process”, (Flight Global, 18-3-19)

    https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/easyjet-pulls-out-of-alitalia-privatisation-process-456726/


    christopheL
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    @flightlevel

    « One of the (many!) reasons we’re leaving the EU is they make rules that only the law abiding UK abides by, most other states ignore them »

    Let’s speak about it when UK will leave EU (if they do …)

    By the way, what is the UK law regarding referendums ? Is it different from the French one ? (Which can be summarized like this : Parliament can change what people decided Anytime what people decided is not in line with what the government wished)

    It is very surprising good news that UK has always abided EU rules. Therefore I am very surprised that UK is about to remain despite the people’s vote.

    Does this means that UK prefers abiding EU rules than UK laws ?

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