Air miles should be axed (or taxed) to deter frequent fliers, report advises

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  • Inquisitive
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    Some people are just jealous, cannot tolerate other people are getting some perks.

    If a supermarket advertises buy one get one free, will the free one will be taxed at value per this logic?

    Bogus idea.


    Inquisitive
    Participant

    Status flight are taxed. Although airlines take the most in the name of fuel surcharges, all other taxes for redemption flight are paid by passengers.

    Rightfully, Airlines shall be taxed more, so FFP will be devalued by Airlines a little bit.


    LuganoPirate
    Participant

    Another proposal put forward by wishy washy snowflake liberals who want to spoil everyone’s fun. To be effective it would mean the rest of the world following suit which is highly unlikely. Besides airlines have no incentive to see this happen as it binds loyalty to them. Without these schemes people would look solely at price and convenience and fly with whichever airline they please.

    Was this the same report that proposed limiting the number of times someone could fly before imposing an extra tax to deter them, or just outright prohibition?

    I recall Swiss had (has?) a carbon offset scheme. They then had the nerve to apply a service charge if you signed up to it!!!
    Ans as for carbon credits, son’t get me started. Company A does not pollute so sells it’s credits to Company B that does. Co. B keeps polluting but passes the cost on to the consumer who then pays more. A complete con that does nothing to reduce the harm to the environment.

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    capetonianm
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    When I first saw carbon taxes (on EZY I think) I tried unsuccessfully to understand how it worked and came to the simplistic conclusion that it didn’t work and was a con. Several years down the line, I am more convinced than ever that it is a con.

    My son, who works for an organisation dealing with environmental concerns, so this is right up his street, also thinks it’s a con, so although he’s a liberal (I daren’t call him a snowflake, he’s taller than me) and a socialist, to my chagrin, on this at least we agree!

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    AJDC
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    “Status flight are taxed. Although airlines take the most in the name of fuel surcharges, all other taxes for redemption flight are paid by passengers.”

    That’s not the sort of taxation I’m talking about. Airlines should issue a 1099K for FF free tickets and report same to the IRS.


    capetonianm
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    This reply has been reported for inappropriate content.

    GoDownSouth : Wishy Washy Snowflake liberals?
    Give me a ‘Wishy Washy Snowflake Liberal’ over the entitled nonsense on here any day of the week.

    Sense of humour failure?
    You may not agree with others, but to put views down as ‘entitled nonsense’ is inappropriate, to use a much overused word.

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    PhilipHart
    Participant

    Rob Burgess addresses this issue with characteristic thoroughness in his HeadForPoints article Would scrapping frequent flyer schemes really reduce climate change?


    PhilipHart
    Participant

    Hate to break it to you @AJDC, but not everyone lives in US and are not therefore subject to IRS tax rules.

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    capetonianm
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    capetonianm
    This reply has been reported for inappropriate content.
    When I first saw carbon taxes (on EZY I think) I tried unsuccessfully to

    capetonianm
    This reply has been reported for inappropriate content.
    Sense of humour failure?

    I really don’t mind my postings being reported as ‘inappropriate’ even if it’s for reasons I fail to understand, but would appreciate that the person who is doing so would have the spine to say who they are and why they find it inappropriate. This may just be some childish little vendetta, but disagreeing with another poster’s view does not make it ‘inappropriate’.


    PhilipHart
    Participant

    I really don’t mind my postings being reported as ‘inappropriate’ even if it’s for reasons I fail to understand, but would appreciate that the person who is doing so would have the spine to say who they are and why they find it inappropriate.

    Agreed. Though in some cases it could simply be that someone has accidentally clicked on “Report” rather than “Reply” which – from a UI/UX perspective – are located very confusingly next to each other. Even if they were simply separated by the “Quote” button it would mitigate many accidental clicks.

    Many years ago I did offer to give Tom – for free – one line of javascript which would pop-up a confirmation dialog to ensure that the user had not inadvertently clicked the “Report” button.

    TBF, at the time Tom indicated that the site was soon to be upgraded, and that the issue would be resolved. I wonder what happened to that upgrade 🤔


    LuganoPirate
    Participant

    I’ve also done this a couple of times, though Tom has been quick in rectifying it when I’ve pointed it out. Would be better if it was at the far right of the post, or, as you say Philip, a confirmation box popped up.

    One bit of good news though, that pesky “captcha” box no longer appears and I can submit direct. Hooray!!!

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    capetonianm
    Participant

    I find it hard to believe that both of my posts cited above were reported by mistake. If that were the case I think the poster would have posted to say that they had made an incorrect report.

    Once again I appeal to the forum moderators to introduce a feature so that when somebody reports a post as ‘inappropriate’ they are forced to identify themselves.


    AFlyingDutchman
    Participant

    Nothing inappropriate nor wrong with your posts Captonianm, and I think it is pretty obvious who ‘reported’ them as such. Some posters think that when something is posted that is not in agreement with their own thoughts or feelings, it’s then ‘inappropriate,’ which of course isn’t the point of the button, which I would imagine is more to report rude language/swear words or racist/hateful comments and the like.

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    NCAS
    Participant

    No business person has the time to make useless ‘status’ flights. We fly because we need to. More often than not, status is more about lounge access and pre-boarding, then FFP. Of course it is easy to ask to tax a ‘smaller’ interest group. Maybe all the cheap Low Cost carrier flights, such as EUR 50 from Hamburg to Rome should be taxed on their real value. My guess is that there are thousands more of useless ‘party flights being done then business
    flights, polluting the environment.


    Tom Otley
    Keymaster

    Noted on the comments.
    I’m going to delete irrelevant posts so someone who is interested in the topic but uninterested in the rest can enjoy the information and opinions contained here.
    the software doesn’t allow us to show who flagged the comments and I’ve asked and its expensive to implement.
    It’s there so that people can alert us whether there’s really offensive or racist posts or spam, but when people disagree with one another.
    It also doesn’t help that it’s next to the Quote button!
    Tom

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