MartynSinclair, The going rate according to supply and demand, just like any other profession, skill or service. With the exception of Lufthansa and Air France in Europe pilots at full service airlines earn a decent living. The former two are paid 50% more than their European partners, and that is why those two airlines are trying to get the salarys to a reasonable level and are experiencing industrial action. The business model of paying over the odds is not sustainable, whether that be for fuel, aircraft, goods, services, staff or crew. I have no doubt in your business you go out of your way to get the best value you can, airlines are no different.