In-flight theft

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    AllOverTheGaff
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    http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/man-loses-346k-in-cash-valuables-on-flight-to-hong-kong?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&link_time=1462233716#xtor=CS1-10

    So, I’ve not really heard of this before, the story doesn’t indicate whether traveller was in 1st/business or economy, but given the value of the items stolen, I would have to presume he was in a premium cabin?

    I often travel with watches and money in my carry on, so thought it worth passing the story on, might need to invest in a decent padlock for my carry-on.

    Rgds.
    AOTG.


    nibbler
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    Today i learned HKG doesn’t have foreign currency restrictions on travelers; $200k usd cash in your carry on; wow!


    SimonS1
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    I don’t know what is more odd. Carrying $200K in cash or only realising you didn’t have it after leaving the plane?


    MrMichael
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    All seems a bit fishy to me.


    AMcWhirter
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    An article published in corportatetravelsafety.com reveals that in-flight crime isn’t as rare as you might expect.

    There are examples here of thefts from passengers on routes as varied as from mainland China to Singapore, from Cairo to Dubai, from the Philippines to mainland China, from LA to New York and from Tokyo to Paris.

    https://www.corporatetravelsafety.com/safety-tips/airline-on-board-theft/

    Here’s the report of the Cebu Pacific flight from the Philippines to mainland China.

    http://shanghaiist.com/2015/08/14/steward-cebu-pacific-accused-stealing-cash.php

    Closer to home there were reports of several thefts on Tokyo Narita-Paris CDG Air France overnight flights back in 2010.

    The suspect turned out to be a member of Air France cabin crew who stole cash and credit cards from business class passengers “during at least 26 flights.”

    At the time, Air France had no comment to make. But bear in mind that “the airline acceps liability for baggage only when placed in the hold.”

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2010-07-20/air-france-flight-attendant-arrested-after-wave-of-business-class-thefts

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/jul/20/air-france-flight-attendant-theft


    PeterCoultas
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    Insurance scam or total incompetence?


    LetsFlyNow
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    @AOTG
    He was flying EK Economy according to the BBC. EK said it is working closely with the police assisting the investigation.

    Surely travelling with 2 pricey watches and a large amount of cash you’d think he could have flown atleast business. Weird story here.


    LuganoPirate
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    Funnily LetsFlyNow, wealthy people often fly economy. One of our board members, worth about $400m always flies Y as does Ingvar Kamprad, owner of Ikea and he’s worth over £2bn!

    I do believe the story as in cash societies’ such as HK and Switzerland carrying large sums of cash is not at all unusual. While I carry cash, and nothing like the amount in this story, it’s in a separate bag kept by my seat, along with credit cards and passport and my carry on is always on the opposite side of my seat so I can keep an eye on it. In addition I keep it locked.


    midorosan2
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    This is not an unusually large amount considering the business he is in, for the life of me cannot understand why smart? business men think that valuables are safe in unlocked bags in overhead lockers.
    This is an increasingly popular crime here in Asia and the criminals go to great lengths to look and dress like businessmen, they travel in business class and target the mark before boarding then use the same overhead bin for their luggage.
    Victim usually discovers theft long after flight has landed.


    MrMichael
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    Alex, if a member of the crew steals from a passenger then the Airline is responsible under UK and probably European law. In a recent case an employer Is vacariuously responsible for the actions of its employee even if those actions are wholly unreasonable and outside the remit of the employee. This follows a recent Supreme Court case Mahmoud V Morrisons where Morrisons were held responsible (civilly) for one of its employees attacking a customer.


    AndrewinHK
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    Through my experiences with CX, Inflight theft was at one stage quite an issue. Organised gangs would target flights, the main routes out of Hong Kong primarily being to South East Asia. The potential thieves tend to board the plane last, so they can survey passengers, and select an over head locker away from there seat to place there small bag, coat etc. This gives them an excuse to roam around the cabin. CX is well aware of the issue and ground staff if they suspect any passenger prior to boarding will stealthily take a photo of said passenger and send it to the ISM on board who can view the photo and keep an eye on the passenger inflight.

    CX also make announcements on historically higher risk routes, Kuala Lumpur, Ho Chi Minh are examples, to specifically warn passengers. Because of this vigilance theft has become less of a problem on CX flights.

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