Russia 72 Hour Visa Exemption
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dutchyankeeParticipantSimilar to the Chinese 72 Hour Visa Exemption, the Russian Duma is debating a new law which would allow visitors from a wide variety of nations to stay in Russia for 72 hours without a visa. This would be a great boon to the Russian Tourist sector, and could, in particular, make cities such as St. Petersburg and Moscow great city break destinations. St. Petersburg already allows this during the summer months for cruise and ferry passengers, so for the entire country to adopt this at all entry points, is a great step forward. It will be interesting to see how quickly this law comes into effect, and if it will remain after the Winter Olympics in Sochi.
11 Sep 2013
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NameRemoved-18/12/14Participantdutchyankee
That would be a very welcome development indeed.
11 Sep 2013
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dutchyankeeParticipantI know! A Huge Step Forward. I am in St. Pete now, and believe me, such a stunning city, it would easily be a great weekend break/city trip, especially if people knew they didnt have to plan in advance for the visa, and further, not have to factor in the cost of a visa which can be around 60 to 100 euros for single entry depending on nationality.
11 Sep 2013
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AMcWhirterParticipantIt’s great news for the local tourist industry but also for the Russian airlines.
Moscow and St Petersburg are located astride the main air routes linking Europe with Asia. A short visa-free stay will encourage European travellers to stopover en route for Asia or v.v.
By the way, holders of UK passports can pay much, much more than the prices quoted above. Unless you can the spare time queuing at the Russian embassy in London you will have to use an agent so could end up paying 200 euros or even more if you need the visa quickly.
11 Sep 2013
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dutchyankeeParticipantHi Alex, I use a company called VHS (Visa handling Service) which has offices in both Antwerp (where I live) and Brussels, and are an off-shoot from the Russian Embasy and Consulate dealing with their visas. Very helpful in Antwerp in particular, make an appointmnet on line, go to the office with your invitation, and you can have your visa in 5 days, less if you want to pay extra, normal service is euro 65, expedited is euro 100.
11 Sep 2013
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AMcWhirterParticipantHello dutchyankee, I agree that the London prices will be cheaper than 200 euros when shopping around. But holders of UK passports do tend to pay more than some other nationals and the rate will be higher if you need the visa quickly. Much depends, I believe, on the prevailing political situation.
11 Sep 2013
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AnthonyDunnParticipantThe issue is not simply the expense.
As I am planning on doing the Trans-Siberian and Trans-Mongolian, I have been looking into entry/visa procedures and Russia is, by a country mile, the most difficult and expensive country to visit in terms of the visa bureaucracy of any other than North Korea. As a part of the visa application process, it is necessary either to have a sponsor or obtain a phoney “tourist invitation” that adds to the cost, complexity and time required. Of course, if you want a quick turn around, then this is possible – but at a very considerable cost.
The moral is that Russia does NOT welcome visitors and makes it as difficult and as costly as possible foreigners to get into the country. And if you are either a UK or US citizen, then double the aggro involved.
11 Sep 2013
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dutchyankeeParticipantWhile I sympathise with your view, speaking with Russians I have been dealing with as of late for a project here, they say the exact same regarding their obtaining of a UK entry Visa and a Schengen Visa. There are plenty of Russians very interested in travelling to the UK and EU, but they have the same challenges, with visas being extremely expensive and time consumming. Just trying to get a colleague a business visa for a meeting in London will take well over 3 weeks, requires various documents, and an interview at the consulate. This is Tit for Tat diplomacy, and as Russians have quite some disposable income these days, we are losing some economic boost from their tourist pounds and euros. I understand why Transaero has 747-400`s flying from St. Pete daily to places like Antalya, Istanbul, Dalaman, to name but a few, as Turkey does not require visas for Russian nationals, and hence Turkey enjoys the influx of Russian cash!
11 Sep 2013
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AnthonyDunnParticipant@ dutchyankee – 11/09/2013 10:13 GMT
The pandering by successive British Home Secretaries to the so-called “immigration lobby” of the Daily Mail, Immigration Watch and the loonies that constitute the UK Isolationist Party is a matter of record. This means that the UK loses out on not just Russian but also hoards of Chinese visitors who would otherwise happily spend a fortune here.
I do take some issue with you. If you need a business visa for Russia, you need to provide a current HIV certificate. Have you ever heard of that requirement for any other country – or demanded of Russians seeking visas for overseas visits?
Much of this is a straight-forward relic of both the Cold War and is also a latter day reflection of Russia’s behaviour in state-sponsoring the murder of British citizens on British streets. That the rest of us end up jumping through hoops (and expensive and time consuming ones at that) is simply the collateral damage resulting from this.
11 Sep 2013
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NameRemoved-18/12/14ParticipantHello Anthony
I have also been looking at various options for this journey. I don’t know anyone who has done it. My preferred route would be Moscow to Vladivostok. Have you looked at:
11 Sep 2013
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AMcWhirterParticipantRe: The Transsiberian
Rail author Christian Wolmar travelled this route in the reverse direction last winter. His book is being published in November.
Here are some of his experiences which he shares both on his own website and in a Daily Mail feature:
http://www.christianwolmar.co.uk/2012/12/rail-711-the-transsiberian-is-a-must-for-all-rail-lovers/
11 Sep 2013
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AnthonyDunnParticipant@ alexpo1 – 11/09/2013 12:58 GMT
@ AMcWhirter – 11/09/2013 13:35 GMTGents, VMTs for your comments. The current plan is to set off from Moskva and stop off at various points en route: Nizhny Novgorod (aka Gorki), Kazan, Tobolsk, Irkutsk (for Lake Baikal) and then down to Ulaanbaatar and onto Beijing. Problem is: there are so many potential permutations and options…
The other excellent sources of information are the Man at seat 61:
and also Real Russia:
http://www.realrussia.co.uk/trains/tickets
Incidentally, unless and until your comprehension of Russian and the Cyrillic alphabet is better than mine (I am working on both plus Mongolian…!) then the best bet for train time info is the superb Deutsche Bahn website:
http://www.bahn.com/i/view/GBR/en/index.shtml
Perhaps I should get my head around writing an article for BT on the voyage should it take place next May/June when the Spring melt has taken place and it’s less likely to be sub-zero.
11 Sep 2013
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