Is there a list of 5th freedom flights for EU-USA?

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  • Bath_VIP
    Participant

    I was telling someone today about 5th freedom flights and how they can sometimes be quite competitive due their need to advertise themselves. I then tried to make a list of the current operators between Europe and the USA and ran out after these two.

    DUB-LAX with Ethiopian
    MAN-IAH with Singapore

    Can anyone add to this list?


    travelsforfun
    Participant

    Off the top of my head, there’s also:

    MXP-JFK on Emirates
    FRA-JFK on Singapore Airlines
    LHR-EWR on Air India

    [Think those are up to date – conscious there’ve been a few changes recently.]


    AMcWhirter
    Participant

    One of the best of these would be EK for MXP-JFK which is operated by an A380. The Italian govt in Rome did its utmost to block EK from flying this route but it failed.

    And SIA’s FRA-JFK service is also operated by an A380.

    One airline not mentioned above is 9W (Jet Airways) with AMS-YYZ.


    travelsforfun
    Participant

    Only because YYZ is not in the USA 🙂

    I did initially include BRU-EWR by 9W – but realised this has now gone as part of Jet’s Amsterdam realignment.


    cotswoldsw
    Participant

    Air NZ LHR to LAX


    travelsforfun
    Participant

    Of course – can’t believe I forgot the most obvious one!

    For completeness, there’s also:

    CDG-LAX on Air Tahiti Nui (though arguably not a true Fifth Freedom as technically a French carrier)
    RIX-JFK on Uzbekistan Airways
    MAN-JFK on Pakistan International Airlines (in one direction – westbound – only)


    Cloud-9
    Participant

    This is an interesting link, although not exclusively EU/US.

    AH/DME on SQ looks very attractive, as does Milan/JFK on EK


    PegasusAir
    Participant

    Just started – MAN – IAH with SQ five times per week.


    kkuaNYC
    Participant

    Off the top of my head routes including discontinued routes:

    SQ: IAH-MAN (continues to SIN), IAH-SVO (discontinued in favor of previous listing, but SVO not part of EU), EWR-AMS (discontinued), JFK-FRA (continues to SIN), JFK-BRU (discontinued in favor of AMS and FRA),

    EK: JFK-MXP (and onwards to DXB)

    AI: EWR-LHR (continues to BOM), EWR-CDG (continues to DEL)

    DY: Norway not technically part of EU, so it’s a 5th freedom for all Norwegian flights to N.America

    TN: CDG-LAX (continues to PPT)

    NZ: LHR-LAX (continues to AKL)

    ET: LAX-DUB (continues to ADD)

    SV: JFK-LHR (discontinued after a fiasco with an Isreali passport holder)


    AMcWhirter
    Participant

    kkuaNYC – It was KU for JFK-LHR and not SV.


    icenspice
    Participant

    Air China – MAD to GRU ??

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