Is there a list of 5th freedom flights for EU-USA?
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at 18:27 by icenspice.
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Bath_VIPParticipantI was telling someone today about 5th freedom flights and how they can sometimes be quite competitive due their need to advertise themselves. I then tried to make a list of the current operators between Europe and the USA and ran out after these two.
DUB-LAX with Ethiopian
MAN-IAH with SingaporeCan anyone add to this list?
1 Nov 2016
at 13:12
travelsforfunParticipantOff the top of my head, there’s also:
MXP-JFK on Emirates
FRA-JFK on Singapore Airlines
LHR-EWR on Air India[Think those are up to date – conscious there’ve been a few changes recently.]
1 Nov 2016
at 14:25
AMcWhirterParticipantOne of the best of these would be EK for MXP-JFK which is operated by an A380. The Italian govt in Rome did its utmost to block EK from flying this route but it failed.
And SIA’s FRA-JFK service is also operated by an A380.
One airline not mentioned above is 9W (Jet Airways) with AMS-YYZ.
1 Nov 2016
at 15:34
travelsforfunParticipantOnly because YYZ is not in the USA 🙂
I did initially include BRU-EWR by 9W – but realised this has now gone as part of Jet’s Amsterdam realignment.
1 Nov 2016
at 16:56
travelsforfunParticipantOf course – can’t believe I forgot the most obvious one!
For completeness, there’s also:
CDG-LAX on Air Tahiti Nui (though arguably not a true Fifth Freedom as technically a French carrier)
RIX-JFK on Uzbekistan Airways
MAN-JFK on Pakistan International Airlines (in one direction – westbound – only)1 Nov 2016
at 18:02
kkuaNYCParticipantOff the top of my head routes including discontinued routes:
SQ: IAH-MAN (continues to SIN), IAH-SVO (discontinued in favor of previous listing, but SVO not part of EU), EWR-AMS (discontinued), JFK-FRA (continues to SIN), JFK-BRU (discontinued in favor of AMS and FRA),
EK: JFK-MXP (and onwards to DXB)
AI: EWR-LHR (continues to BOM), EWR-CDG (continues to DEL)
DY: Norway not technically part of EU, so it’s a 5th freedom for all Norwegian flights to N.America
TN: CDG-LAX (continues to PPT)
NZ: LHR-LAX (continues to AKL)
ET: LAX-DUB (continues to ADD)
SV: JFK-LHR (discontinued after a fiasco with an Isreali passport holder)
5 Dec 2016
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