2012 Cellars In The Sky
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at 21:39 by BeckyBoop.
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esselleParticipantInteresting results.
BA come nowhere, apart from a burgundy in First which did not feature for long. Sticking to LPGC for so long, even in the CCR, says accountants rather than folk who care about the customer.
What I find more interesting however, as a very general comment, is the weight towards Middle Eastern carriers, who have clearly taken a great deal of care in their choice of wines, despite the obvious conflict that alcohol gives rise to.
5 Feb 2013
at 20:11
BeckyBoopParticipantHere is the full list…
http://www.businesstraveller.com/cellars-2012
Surprising Air France don’t appear at all considering a lot of wine comes from France,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxe565L1vCc
BA
5 Feb 2013
at 20:37
VintageKrugParticipantGosh, BA wins a prize and still receives opprobrium. Quelle surprise!
Good to see British Airways winning the Best First Class White:
1.British Airways – Vincent Girardin Puligny Montrachet Premier Cru le Champ Gain, 2007, Burgundy, France
6 Feb 2013
at 08:19
AlasdairParticipantQantas score the BEST cellar in the sky, justifiably. Also up there which regardless of route was Qatar which also offers a consistently excellent cellar. However, what is quite dismal, is the performance of British Airways. Premium passengers like us put up with very mediocre wines in Club and apparently (having never flown First), generally, wines on offer there are just as hit or miss.
In an area where BA have the opportunity to excel, and having had the in-house assistance of Jancis Robinson, it just isn’t good enough.
6 Feb 2013
at 12:41
BeckyBoopParticipantYou lot should really make an effort to go to the Taste of London event especially if you are or have been a GCH’s as you will have a chance to meet with senior members of the BA execuative team who are in charge of catering. So you can tell them to their faces how you feel and what you would like to see drink and eat onboard.
6 Feb 2013
at 12:47
VintageKrugParticipantI would imagine the reason that the winning Burgundy wasn’t served for very long is that it simply wasn’t available in sufficient numbers to sustain a lengthy presence.
When I spoke to the Head Wine Buyer at British Airways, he used this argument to justify the fact that he didn’t feature English wines on board. Thankfully, this was (briefly) reversed when his successor to up residence, but it’s still a factor when the volumes are taken into account (BA has around 4-5,000 F customers per day, with around 150 daily flights each requiring 6-10 bottles per aircraft for out and back stock).
So even one days operation could easily use 1500 bottles; suddenly the need for thousands of cases – and volume produced wines – becomes more apparent!
7 Feb 2013
at 09:42
IanFromHKGParticipantVolume can indeed be a real issue, and a positive disincentive for a small to mid-size producer which will not want to become too closely dependent on a single airline for a large slice of its production, given that airlines do periodically refresh their wine lists.
The thing which struck me was the relatively high proportion of New World wines on the business class list – indeed, bubbles aside, only two French wines in the entire list.
Cathay, at least until fairly recently (I haven’t checked on my last few flights) used to feature slightly off-beat choices as “guest wines” for limited periods. A nice idea, featuring some wines I would probably never have tried otherwise, including a surprisingly tasty sweet rose at one point. Good for all concerned – shows some inventiveness by the airline, exposes a boutique producer to a wider audience, and gives us passengers something a little more interesting to try.
7 Feb 2013
at 10:17
VintageKrugParticipantI do wish more airlines would take that approach – I recall a splendid “flight” of sherries (of all things!) on a Lufthansa flight in F.
I’ve only ever had sherry at funerals and when visiting virgin aunts in the country, oh and once in the Headmaster’s study when he decided to confide in me about the scandalous revelations in the papers, but that’s another story.
Lufthansa did it very well, with the staff trained to know a bit about what they were serving, and a specially printed serving mat with a space for each glass, and a brief commentary on what to expect alongside each glass. Superb!
A shame I still don’t like sherry much, but a good way to pass half an hour on board, and bring back the concept of the food/wine offering as an intrinsic part of the IFE.
7 Feb 2013
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