ex-Europe start in Amsterdam..

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    MartynSinclair
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    Is anyone able to confirm deplaning / boarding facilities at Amsterdam, arriving on a BA flight.

    I start my next journey to BKK from Amsterdam and would like to know whether arriving and departing passengers mix. i.e. I am arriving from London and then immediately boarding the same aircraft back, will I be arriving into the terminal at the boarding gate or will I need to go through, out and back in again..??

    Thanks in advance


    Pasadis
    Participant

    You immediately mix with departing pax so as long as you already have your boarding card. Not sure however how it will work for luggage given the short turn around time …


    eybusiness
    Participant

    To 99% you will stay airside and do not have to go through security again as BA has a agreement with Shipol airport to use gates D26-D31 only and these gates are behind central security. If not you will come out on the same level as passenger boarding so you just queue again to go through security. Hope this helps.


    MartynSinclair
    Participant

    Thank you and appreciate the responses.

    No issues with luggage. Will already have checked my bags in for the Bangkok flight in London..

    Looking forward to doing this trip without having to switch terminals as previous..


    MarcusUK
    Participant

    Yes, you just come off the plane and enter the terminal, and it will be 5 secs to where you re-join the queue to re-board.

    Hope the crew not suspicious when you return!

    Are you doing this due to the Ex AMS prices compared to LHR on BA?
    You could have flown on with KLM, some very reasonable prices periodically from £1350 business return.


    MartynSinclair
    Participant

    Hi Marcus – I always tell the crew, just in case something happens – remember Linate is a bus back to the terminal. Sometimes I was lucky was allowed to stay put…

    Yes this is an ex-Europe to BKK instead of a direct from London.

    Savings – LHR-BKK-LHR came to £3,850. I have paid £2,200 for ex AMS + a separate LHR-AMS ticket (avios). A client is giving me a lift back from AMS into Luton when I return.

    I have used BA for this trip as I am on for an avios bonus which effectively means this trip is worth 13 economy sectors or 7 club Europe sectors, in effect, the ticket is net free!!!!


    openfly
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    Martynsinclair…
    I do it all the time. Just arrive, stay where you are and re board. If your inbound flight is early you can nip along to the BA Lounge. You have to go through an easy security when you go back to the gate. If you do this then obviously you can’t have liquids in your hand baggage.


    SwissExPat
    Participant

    I have done this with SWISS, saving a similar amount. There are some significant savings to be made. Some of their start points in Europe have very attractive fares in J and even F rather than originating in ZRH.

    Usually the departure ex ZRH needs to be within 24 hours of arrival on the inward 1st sector.


    AnthonyDunn
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    Martyn,

    Snr Mgt has now been trying out a range of ex-continental jump-offs and AMS is certainly about the easiest to manage as you get off, walk to the top of the airbridge and that is the non-segregated area where the inbound pax queue is. The lounge is a brisk walk away if you’ve the time. Otherwise, for the next trip to JNB, I was investigating via either HEL or IST owing to the additional TPs which will push S/M well over into BAEC Gold – and still delivering a substantial saving even against her corporate travel deal. Tag on a weekend with a no-bags return for your nearest and dearest and you can really start gaming BA’s pricing schema.

    And she has, by now, learned to check any bags at LHR direct to the final destination rather than have any more rushed bag grab and check-in sagas at the continental jump-off point.


    MartynSinclair
    Participant

    Anthony, until recently, Milan was the most cost effective for my ex Europe’s to BKK. Besides the upfront cost saving there was the additional benefit of the tickets being “more changeable” than UK tickets i.e. smaller fee!

    Now with the BKK flight time changes and not so flexible tickets, Milan is no longer attractive.

    With regards to the luggage – everything checked in at Heathrow and any carry is stored at Heathrow. Just take my phone, wallet and passport to Europe and back.

    Works very well….


    LuganoPirate
    Participant

    I’m curious Martyn. You arrive at LHR with an AMS LHR BKK ticket, and they will accept your baggage at LHR knowing you’re starting the journey in AMS? Or is the bag tagged LHR AMS LHR BKK?

    They must know you’re saving £1,600 by doing this so I’d think they’d do all they could to make it as inconvenient as possible?


    AnthonyDunn
    Participant

    LP

    Yep, there is no problem with skipping sending the bag via your continental dog-leg; you just tag it direct from LON-final destination. On your return, you can either have it follow you or, more reliably, just send it straight to LON and pick it up from BA Baggage Services later that day, upon your return.

    Frankly, quite a lot of check-in staff appear entirely unaware of this routine as do some corporate travel agents so we have had some educating of Snr Mgts travel fixers.

    As we managed to miss the first leg flight for Snr Management’s most recent trip to JNB/RCB (bad traffic on the North Circular) we had to rebook her first leg – on this occasion onto a slightly later flight to CDG. The BA ticketing guy was entirely unphazed by what she was doing – after all it is the airline that is making up the fare rules and she was following them. You just have to ensure that the first and last sectors are on a different itinerary from your principal return journey.

    It’s transparently the case that carriers are exploiting the preference of most business people to minimise their time in the air – and price accordingly. And as others have posted, it’s not just BA doing this to maximise the transit traffic through their hub; other carriers do this too across the continent.


    canucklad
    Participant

    I’m further intrigued AD…..

    Lets just say I wanted to fly to HKG from EDI, You’re saying it’s well worth investigating BA’s Dutch website for a cheap AMS-LHR- HKG routing.
    Then book a cheap KL/EZ flight to AMS, maybe enjoy the city and catch my BA flights accordingly?

    My primary issue is the faffing about on my return journey…i.e. Just want to be home syndrome!

    Could I board my flight in HKG, show them my EDI boarding card and request that as my final destination , and just de-plane at LHR without finishing in AMS?

    Sorry for being daft! : )


    MarcusUK
    Participant

    Playing the systems, always satisfying and a game we can play.

    Personally, I use AMS anyway, as fares on most Airlines are less, with No LHR charges, few fuel supplements, and no government taxes. This knocks off at least £300-500 each flight (Business class), and many Airlines you can now access from AMS.

    CDG also have great savings using MH, “Saver Business Class” fares, not available from LHR, saving £1,500 on an EU – KUL trip, or more to Australia for eg. All A380’s also.

    With LHR putting up the charges by 11% for the Airlines (and for some years ahead), we will end up paying this.
    Departing from the EU on your preferred Airline, directly to your destination, saves quite a lot of money each trip and each year.

    Equally, I have used KLM Business class Ex LHR via AMS for £1750 a few times.

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