easyJet adds ‘conformance’ at Gatwick
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at 07:39 by MartynSinclair.
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FDOS_UKParticipantI can see some problems arising from this, if the queues for the barriers are long and pax are denied boarding.
Could be some interesting court cases.
30 May 2016
at 08:06
FDOS_UKParticipantopenfly – 30/05/2016 17:39 BST
But the process is not under the control of the passenger.
easyJet will wish to charge the passenger to re-book, but if the pax can show they checked in a reasonable time (and the IT systems will confirm), how can they be held responsible for factors outside their control?
Whatever happened to the principle of ‘force majeuere’?
They should be re-booked at zero cost, under these circumstances.
I can see actions for ‘unfair contract’ blackening the skies – quite rightly, in my opinion, as a business should not be able to layoff the risk to a passenger, when they cannot influence the outcome.
30 May 2016
at 16:58
openflyParticipantIf, as at T5 and T3 with BA, the pax is well informed that it is necessary to be at the security swipe by -30, then that is reasonable. Passengers have to be regimented these days, after all most of them leave their brains at the airport door!! With boarding commencing, in most cases of ETD -30 on short-haul flights, the onus is on the passenger to be at the gate on time. A gate no-show causes the bag offload procedure to start and the rolling delay starts because the pax is shopping!
Yes the Easy 30 mins is reasonable, especially at big airports. It works at Heathrow and Gatwick for BAs -35.30 May 2016
at 17:15
MrMichaelParticipantI can see your point of view FDOS, the thing is though most people check in online, so checking in is actually not a reliable measure if someone was reasonably on time. I would imagine such a move puts the pressure on to LGW to be sure that unreasonable delays do not occur at security, and I figure if the delay is unreasonable then LGW would be liable. As a PAX I guess one does not have a contract with the airport, so if late due to unreasonable delays (and Easyjet will know this) then Easyjet are surely liable as LGW is a subcontractor to Easyjet to supply airport services.
30 May 2016
at 17:57
FDOS_UKParticipantMrMichael
Whilst I can see what you are saying, I think it is a matter of contract between the airline and the passenger.
If the passenger cannot get to the electronic gates on time, I don’t think that makes Gatwick liable (although I’m not a lawyer, so may be wrong.)
Put it another way, most contracts I’ve dealt with have a ‘force majeure’ clause.
So, iin this case, if the security queues prevented the passenger making the 30 minute limit, they could have a refund or a free re-booking.
Although your point about checking in at home is reasonable, there would be ways for the pax to establish when they joined the queue.
If they turn up too late – without excuse, that is another matter entirely ,but that is not what I’m talking about.
30 May 2016
at 18:46
MartynSinclairParticipantMost people now tend to get the airport at least 60 minutes before departure and currently, I would say there is a 90% chance of entering the security screening area where your boarding pass is scanned within the say 20 minutes.
The problem though as I read, is that Easy are now closing their boarding gates 30 minutes before departure, so on the one hand you are able to enter the security zone, 31 prior to departure, but then you have no chance of reaching the gate in time.
Whilst I don’t use Easyjet (at the moment), I do sometimes check their prices and notice flights can go for as little as £9 up to £300+ on busy days. Why don’t they just add the £15 to every ticket and guarantee refunds and / or changes in line with their insurance policy OR do they rely on people to miss flights to make a profit?? Would pax notice an extra £15 for what amounts to a fully flex ticket or I am missing something..??
30 May 2016
at 19:05
FDOS_UKParticipantSimonS1
A couple of years ago, when I still lived in Malta, I had a 20 min+ wait to get to the point where the BP was scanned going into the security queue.
If I had had a long queue at the bag drop (plausible) then missing the cut off would have been likely.
30 May 2016
at 19:09
BigDog.ParticipantEasyJet lost a court case last year as it was found their lack of staff numbers contributed to passenger delays. Further, am finding they are increasingly using the RyanAir tactic of not connecting to jetties but leaving a walk short enough not to utilise buses so again elongating the time taken to board.
I was at LGW last week using EasyJet to Bud – although the gate was announced in good time, no indication was provided as to time from departure hall to the gate, maybe as there was still an unpredictable time from gate to aircraft.
Imo EasyJet is trying to save money whilst putting both the inconvenience and risk squarely with its passenger.30 May 2016
at 20:45
canuckladParticipantTwo points on this subject…..
1)Easyjet is actively seeking to increase its market share of the business traveller.Increasing unnecessary time at an airport doesn’t chime with encouraging me to choose Easyjet over , let’s say…ehmmm BA !
2) One of the most infuriating things about Easyjet is the amount of times I’ve rushed to the gate, with “Final Call” ringing in my ears, just to find a group of lost souls shuffling about waiting to board an aircraft that hasn’t even landed from its previous sector.
And it seems to me that ,it’s my responsibility to get to the gate in time, not an unmanned barrier flashing a red X at me.
30 May 2016
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