Preclearance vs ESTA immigration kiosks

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    icenspice
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    In the past few weeks I have flown to Miami twice from London and have found these automated kiosks a pleasure to use. You scan your passport, answer a few questions and are issued with a receipt which you present to an immigration officer…again no queue!!

    If I compare with the friendly and swift preclearance formalities at Dublin, IMO the kiosks are just as good, if not better.

    Which other US airports have same?


    Tim2soza
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    Austin, Atlanta, Chicago, Dallas Fort Worth, Washington Dulles all do. US pre-clearance is coming to Manchester and Heathrow. Global Entry program will be extended to UK citizens from early 2016.


    MrDarwin
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    Boston also has the kiosks and it’s significantly improved efficiency getting through immigration.


    icenspice
    Participant

    Pity that JFK doesn’t seem to feature. Thanks guys.


    PhilbLND
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    Terminal 1 at JFK has the esta automated kiosks. I used it this week arriving from Tokyo on a JAL flight.


    MartynSinclair
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    What was the outcome of one of the previous blockers to USA pre-clearance in the UK, that American officials demanded the right to carry guns in the UK?


    LuganoPirate
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    JFK definitely has them. I used them on my arrival a couple of weeks ago.

    Took some time to work out how to use it till a very friendly lady helped me. After all the effort I got the receipt with a big “X” on it meaning I still had to go and be “processed”.

    Turns out you can only use the machines if you have already entered with your current ESTA. If it’s new, or even a renewal, you have to go to an agent.


    globaltraveller
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    Flew into LAX two weeks ago they have the kiosks, Q’d
    to use the kiosks about 30 mins then joined another Q to have the immigration officer check the tickets, took nearly1.5 hrs, great improvement…not.


    lloydah
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    L.P. Yes, the same happened to me at IAD. After queueing for ages to get to a machine I then had to join another queue to get to an agent. If I’d joined the”agent” queue in the first place I’d have been i the car by then.


    Tim2soza
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    Slightly off topic, but pay £3 for Priority lane security at Luton and liquids are required to be in a clear plastic bag and the 100ml restriction is lifted, only laptops still have to come out. Apparently the scanner detects dangerous liquids.


    LuganoPirate
    Participant

    I was lucky Lloydah, there were plenty of unoccupied machines when I arrived and no-one in front of me for the agent. However I did have to join a short queue to again show my stamped card and hand it over before I could get to the baggage hall.


    PeterCoultas
    Participant

    Similar easy entry into Australia with the new on-line visa….from the plane to outside Melbourne Tullamarine in 15 minutes (admittedly with hand bag only)


    Vistaro
    Participant

    100ml lifted at Luton, is that really the case?


    travelsforfun
    Participant

    I used it for the first time last week at JFK Terminal 8 – it was a big improvement. But as has been said, its usefulness remains dependent on the queues – for the machines and for the immigration officers. In my case, there were no queues for the machines (this will no doubt change as more visitors cotton on to the possibility of using them) – and only a short but initially slow-moving queue for the immigration officer – though soon after, someone came to specifically to process ESTA/machine passengers and we went very quickly through.

    My only challenge was getting it to read my passport – normally don’t have problems with any other automated passport reader I use, but did need to call over a member of staff to help me get it read.

    They were announcing that first time ESTA visitors couldn’t use the machines; I thought I’d try my luck – it wasn’t my first time, but it was the first time on that ESTA (my third) – and all worked smoothly.

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