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    Keithschick07
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    My recent trip

    I booked with BA as the flight was almost 1k cheaper than flying Emirates and now I know why. I travelled in January 2016.

    First off I tried to book the offer of buy a Club ticket and be upgraded one way to First, this had to booked through a BA office. Absolutely impossible, the staff in the BA office in Bahrain had no clue what I was talking about even although I was reading it off the BA Website to them. I emailed BA and they apologized to me but that was it. So I had to book CW RT and forget the upgrade. How’s that for customer service.

    Night time flight from Bahrain to Heathrow in CW only meal offered through the night, soup, or cheese and biscuits. I had travelled some distance before I got on the flight so expected something more.

    Usual breakfast offering before arriving into Heathrow.

    Heathrow staff obnoxious, rude and sarcastic felt like I was waiting in line for punishment. Still not too bad. Had hand luggage only as last time BA lost my bag for 3 days, although they did compensate me financially.

    Now the return – again in CW, not busy. No welcome drink offered even although I was sitting in the first window seat. Had preordered my main meal which seemed to be ok but was then questioned “Did I want a starter – as you have already ordered a main course” as if how dare I order something else. I asked for 2nd glass of Rose champagne, was told one hour into the flight it has finished. Then I asked what other champagne was available…. answer “don’t know, as I don’t drink alcohol”. Is this really how cabin staff are trained to serve their customers. Miraculously another member of cabin staff appeared and asked what was wrong, they appeared with a bottle of the said Rose Champagne.

    The “pantry” had almost nothing in it, although the 4 cabin staff were happily chatting and eating ice-cream never even asked if they could help. Really not good enough.

    I will continue to use them if the price is right but there is no comparison to the service you get from Middle Eastern Airlines.
    I emailed BA on my return to let them know of my experience, again they said they were sorry but not an AVIOS air mile was given to me, not that I asked. Next time I travel BA I will know not to expect too much.


    conshaldow
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    The upgrade to first class option is subject to quite a few conditions. It can require being booked in certain classes/flights/routes and can depend on which fare bracket you are booked in business class. If the BA fare was indeed 1k cheaper than Emirates I expect this would be in one of the lower business class brackets (I class or R class) which a lot of the time don’t allow the free upgrade.

    I would possibly think about leaving out the feedback on the Heathrow staff. Was this the BA staff specifically at Heathrow or the Heathrow Airport Staff or even Heathrow Airport immigration?

    I would also not dwell on details about baggage from a previous trip. I think this is unfair and isn’t really relevant to the trip being reviewed above.

    I’m not one for questioning the authenticity of reviews, and I feel everyone is welcome to their opinion, but I raise some eyebrows at vague descriptions from first time posters.


    FDOS_UK
    Participant

    “I’m not one for questioning the authenticity of reviews, and I feel everyone is welcome to their opinion, but I raise some eyebrows at vague descriptions from first time posters.

    Fair point, so let’s assess the content:

    “I booked with BA as the flight was almost 1k cheaper than flying Emirates and now I know why. I travelled in January 2016.” – likely to have been a deeply discounted ticket, as EK are usually competitive.

    “First off I tried to book the offer of buy a Club ticket and be upgraded one way to First” – sounds like the pax is not familiar with BA’s upgrade offer, which is limited in scope

    “Night time flight from Bahrain to Heathrow in CW only meal offered through the night, soup, or cheese and biscuits. I had travelled some distance before I got on the flight so expected something more. ” It’s a sleeper service, so the F&B is lite overnight, a pointer to the pax lacking familiarity with BA. Edited to add that there is no pre-dining facility in the lounge at BAH, unlike the US east coast airports (it is a contract lounge), so people not familiar with the flight service offered can be caught out and go hungry.

    “Usual breakfast offering before arriving into Heathrow.” This is true for a sleeper service.

    “Heathrow staff obnoxious, rude and sarcastic felt like I was waiting in line for punishment. Still not too bad. Had hand luggage only as last time BA lost my bag for 3 days, although they did compensate me financially.” – Plausible, for attitude (not just BA staff at Heathrow, the whole place can feel surly/aggressive) and bag loss – alos BA is usually good at compensating for missing luggage.

    “Now the return…” I’ve been missed in a window seat (more than once) the question about the starter and the champagne incident doesn’t equate to anything I’ve ever experienced.

    “The “pantry” had almost nothing in it, although the 4 cabin staff were happily chatting and eating ice-cream never even asked if they could help. ” Plausible.

    On the balance of probability, I believe this poster probably doesn’t use BA regularly and expected something comparable to EK onboard.

    The last para also makes sense to me (have lower expectations, buy on value), so on balance I’d say this is an honest post, not some form of web knocking by an agency or competitor.


    AllOverTheGaff
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    Keithschick07 – 10/02/2016 09:07 GMT
    Heathrow staff obnoxious, rude and sarcastic felt like I was waiting in line for punishment.

    HA!

    That’s a brilliant summary of LHR.

    Rgds.
    AOTG.


    NTarrant
    Participant

    That is a very fair assessment FDOS.

    Most night flights from the Middle East on BA don’t offer a full meal service. Certainly out of Riyadh only a handful of people take the snacks if that.


    FDOS_UK
    Participant

    Hi Nigel, I’ve done the redeye to/from Riyadh a few times over the years, too and it’s such a short hop that you just want to get your head down ASAP.


    NTarrant
    Participant

    That is so true FDOS, I’ve been to Paris a few times on Saudia which leaves Riyadh about the same time as the BA flight. Get up in the air and they whack the lights on to serve a meal for a good hour!

    You might remember the lounge in Terminal 1 at Riyadh FDOS, we used to call it the sh*t lounge but in the last six months they have refurbished it and now have better catering


    Keithschick07
    Participant

    In answer some of the questions raised about my review.

    When I called the BA Bahrain office regarding the upgrade to FC, I had yet to book my flight as this upgrade could only be booked through a BA office or a travel agent as stated on the website. So when it is mentioned about my “ticket type” – that doesn’t apply, I had no ticket at this point. I am well aware that there are always T&C’s to any offer. I would have booked through the office in Bahrain if it had been possible to get them to understand the offer on the BA website. In my email reply from BA they said they would speak to the Bahrain staff, I heard no more. I was travelling the following week so I went ahead and booked the CW flights online.

    I never mentioned “BA” staff at Heathrow, I was talking about Heathrow staff and never realized that there was another place to post these remarks and for that I apologize.

    The missing luggage; I praise BA reimbursing me for the inconvenience I suffered. I am aware that things like this can happen and that it is not exclusive to BA.

    The food issue over the starter – I just got the impression that it was too much of an effort and as I had already pre-ordered a main course then that should have been enough for me. Once I picked a starter it was made to be a big drama as to whether they had it, calling across to another colleague about numbers and a whole lot of head counting, as I said earlier CW not busy.

    Regarding the champagne, irrespective of someone’s choice as to whether or not to drink alcohol then surely if you are working as a flight attendant on any airline there is a fair chance that somebody is quite likely to ask as to what type of champagne/wine you have on offer. I would imagine this to be covered as a basic part of staff training.

    I have never had this experience before on any flight where a food order has been treated as such an inconvenience and as for trying to get information relating to a brand of champagne, well what a response.

    Prior to September 2015 I have only flown BA occasionally, so I agree that my expectations were too high.


    EU_Flyer
    Participant

    I agree the sleeper service isn’t great if you’re hungry when you board and the lounge doesn’t have a decent food offering. Have had many similar experiences ex Middle East.

    I’m surprised by how the crew member handled the meal service. No passenger should be made to feel guilty for asking for a product they’re entitled to. Perhaps they mistakenly though you wanted a second main? Still, poorly handled. As for the champagne comment. I’ve never heard something like that from a BA staff member personally. But I’d have been onto the Purser immediately.

    Finally, the Bahrain staff should have known about the promotion. It’s heavily marketed by BA globally and, even if it didn’t apply in their country, they should have been able to answer your enquiry. No excuse.


    rferguson
    Participant

    Just to pick up on a few points regarding the inflight service –

    As you mention BA offers the opportunity to pre select the main course online but not the starter choice. It is normal procedure when taking the meal order to confirm the passengers main course selection and to ask if they would also like a starter. Although it sounds more the attitude of the crew member than the process that was the issue.

    Running out of Rose Champagne?? Not a chance. We carry 7 bottles for J class between LHR and BAH. I reckon the uptake is one to two passengers in each full J class cabin (from personal experience). i have never, ever ran out of Rose champagne.

    Crew member not knowing the champagnes – the LHR-BAH route is worked by ‘worldwide’ fleet crew. In other words, no crew member working that route has been flying less that ten years at a minimum. In the last ten years we have had the same champagne – Taittenger. The Rose become an alternative option a couple years ago. So a drinker or not – i’m sure this crew member would have picked up on this fact over the past ten years. Unfortunately sounds like you encountered someone that dislikes their job and has a bit of an attitude problem.

    Regarding catering on the night flights mid-east to LHR….the current options for the flights departing the mid east in the wee early hours of the morning are:
    After take off – soup, mezze plate or cheese and biscuits.
    Pre landing – Full breakfast (choice of two starters/four mains).
    For a six hour night flight I think this is reasonable. From experience of working these flights i’d say the uptake on the after take off snack is around 10%. Breakfast maybe 50%.
    BA have swapped the service around a few times during my time at BA due to customer feedback. On the ME-LHR night flights it’s gone backwards and forwards a few times between full hot meal as the first service followed by a continental breakfast to the current offering.

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