LHR No Way Back

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  • Anonymous
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    Came across a strange situation this week whilst travelling out of LHR T5.

    I had purchased some pastes & sauces whilst visiting London and had meant to check my carry-on bag when arriving at the airport as I knew these items wouldn’t pass the liquids test. However, I only remembered once I had scanned my boarding pass at Fast Track security and taken exactly one step through the automated gates.

    I then said to the person who is stationed at the gates that I need to exit as I forgot to check my bag as it contains liquids. She said I could not and had to talk to security. They advised there is “no way back” as I was now mixed with other passengers from connecting international flights and UK law (not airport security) prevents passengers from exiting once they’ve passed boarding pass control.

    Therefore, security said “the only way is forward” and that I would have to give up the liquids that were not permitted. Although always frustrating, I understand the liquids rule, but thought the other one was a little strange. Technically, I hadn’t passed into the secure airside area. In many airports, I had actually passed through security and they still let me back out (for example if I had forgotten something on the other side).


    RichardB
    Participant

    If it’s “uk law” then terminal 3 is breaking the law. if you are on departures airside then walk towards the transfer desks and there is a door marked “arrivals” and you end up in the arrivals area. Go through immigration and the baggage hall and you are land side again. I went this way a few months ago.


    MartynSinclair
    Participant

    I am sure I have seen passengers being given the option to return airside when expensive perfume or other liquids were left inside hand luggage in T5.


    mikeact
    Participant

    What a lot of rubbish. …I wasn’t feeling too well one day last year and in Departures decided that I needed to call it a day and go back home. ‘No problem Sir, through that door over there.’


    SimonS1
    Participant

    If you have completed security are airside in the secure area you can’t just wander out. You have to go through UK Border. Normally there is a designated route or escort system to take you back out the terminal.

    If you are still within the security area you can usually return to check in, you often hear them giving people the option to return and check things in. The attendant will reset the system so your BP will work when you return. If there is a temporary passport check (which UKBA sometimes do) it is always after security as you enter the departures area.


    the747guy
    Participant

    @High_Cadence_ Travels:

    I have been at T5 once in a similar situation, but I had carry on liquids which were less than 100ml. but could not fit into that ridiculous small plastic bag. I took my (liquid) stuff and went back to the check-in area and put my new backpack bag into the checked baggage and went back to security again without a problem. Those security officers can be a pain in the as* if they want to, but you have the option to go back and check-in another bag without a problem (especially if you are an EC Gold member)…… therefore, UK Law or not, you have the right (as an international passenger) to go back to the check-in area, or out of the airport, if you so desire.


    canucklad
    Participant

    It can’t be a UK law,because at EDI you can be airside waiting to board an international flight and head down the escalator ,past the policeman at the bottom straight past the carousels and your outside .

    Delayed flights and mates who are smoke fiends have traversed this route umpteen times. Also seen it done at Gatwick for same reason


    Flightlevel
    Participant

    2choices,request to check in hand luggage@gate if you get though Xray(?)or go out to smoke,if you have passport not requiring a Uk visa,&rtn to check in bag. Though pax has duty not2bring in such stuff,includes yoghurt! Send by post next time.


    FDOS_UK
    Participant

    I experienced the same thing at T3 a few years ago (at the scanner, before entering the securre area) and the security supervisor (a real prat of a harridan) was adamant that I couldn’t go out, so I got out my cell and dialled 999. (I needed to go out,becuase they wanted to confiscate something that was stated as being okay in hand luggage on the BAA website and I decided to post it home from the T3 post office.)

    Funny how that changed the rules and I was allowed to go out.


    nevereconomy
    Participant

    I experienced this in the very early days of T5 after snow when I needed to continue by train as flight cancelled – the system developed to allow the co-mingling of domestic and international passengers does not allow exit without you being taken back out of the system.
    I had to have an escort who scanned me back out – took ages and was a total pain. Nobody seemed to know how to do it back then – it is probably simpler now.


    SimonS1
    Participant

    The escort system at T5 is still there.

    You can’t just wander out at LGW either, the exit route takes you back to UK Border where you are checked.

    I have never been to Edinburgh, but either it is misleading or they are breaking the law. You can return out whilst in security to recheck items but not once through and in departures. The simple reason for this is that the international departures area of any UK airport could contain people in transit who have no entitlement to be in UK. If people could wander out unchecked the whole world would want to transit at Edinburgh as a means of avoiding border controls, it would be obvious and the loophole would have been long since closed.


    Luxembourger
    Participant

    Simon S1

    You very plainly haven’t been to Edinburgh. There is no international transit in the sense you describe. Why would there be, given its geographical location? All passengers arriving on international flights have to go through passport control. Then, in the unlikely event of their wanting to connect internationally they have to rejoin the system from scratch as, in effect, domestic passengers. Once they, or anyone else, has passed security you can, as Canucklad quite rightly says return landside quite easily. I really do not see that Edinburgh airport is breaking the law.


    Tim2soza
    Participant

    Which law is it breaking ?!


    SimonS1
    Participant

    So if I arrive from one destination and am leaving to another destination, and have no right to enter the UK, I still go through passport control?

    Or are you saying the airlines just wouldn’t sell the tickets? In which case it isn’t really relevant to what the OP was talking about.

    I agree it isn’t a normal transit location, on the other hand people trying to enter the UK illegally tend not to use normal destinations.

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