How to Make Longhaul Economy Approximate a Premium Cabin

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    VintageKrug
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    I noted new BTer SimonPollack has to manage an economy travel policy, which I’m sure is also the case for many people these days.

    What do you do to make the journey more comfortable, and approximate as closely as is possible within the obvious constraints of a high density, upright seat layout?


    BeckyBoop
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    If you fly Air New Zeland you can buy the Sky couch and soon Virgin seat plus will give you the chance to by the seat next to you for a small surcharge

    http://www.airnewzealand.co.uk/economy-skycouch

    http://www.businesstraveller.com/discussion/topic/Vigin-Atlantic-SeatPlus


    Deleted_User
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    I always reserve my seat at the back of the aircraft, as it’s more likely there will be some empty seats around me. I had a particularly good flight with BA to Tokyo on a 777-300 as the Economy cabin was very empty.

    If the flight is busy, I find a longhaul in Economy pure torture on any airline. Unfortunately, most of my flights are in this cabin.


    LeTigre
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    Though now at Virgin, I used to do lots of business travel and therefore have a few tips:

    1. At the airport, spend as much as you can get away with on food and drink, making sure you have enough to avoid dehydration on the plane.
    2. Purchase extra legroom or exit rows where possible.
    3. Fly with airlines that offer better Y seats even without the miles.
    4. Sign up to a lounge membership.
    5. Always ask when you get hungry onboard!
    6. Take a tablet filled with silly games. 😉


    BeckyBoop
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    If you find eating the onboard food not to your taste buy some goodies in the terminal to take onboard with you. On a domestic AA flight earlier in the year i guy took his burger and chips on board. Otherise if you fly from T5 LHR you can always get a picnic from Gordon Ramsay’s plane food resturant.

    http://www.gordonramsay.com/planefood/menus/picnics/

    Load your own Ipad or laptop with movies and games.


    Deleted_User
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    Reserve an aisle seat so you can stretch your legs often.


    Bath_VIP
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    First of all, campaign to change the policy to one based on price. My policy (both business & personal) is that the maximum I will pay for a journey is a fully flexible economy fare (anytime standard on the trains). If you & your employees can get a business or first class fare for less than that then that’s fine.

    If your company lacks the imagination to implement such a policy, then one solution to increase comfort is to break your journey up with transfers. For example, flying from UK to USA, you could fly with Icelandair via Reyjavik. Then a 7 hour journey becomes a 3 + 4 hour journey. Personally, I am happy to fly economy up to 2 hours and can tolerate 5 hours but no more.

    Obviously some airlines offer an emergency exit seat for a small fee but this is no use to me as I am not allowed to sit in these seats.

    A small trick I use on some airlines is that invariably the seat pocket in front of you is full of junk and takes away some kneeroom. So if I get my seat before anyone else has joined me, I just put the junk in the seat pocket next to me! Being taller than most people, it is unlikely anybody is going to complain.

    On the trains, most long haul trains offer more legroom in the seats at the back of the carraiges. They are marked as disabled seats but unless a disabled person comes along it is unlikely you will have to give them up.


    VintageKrug
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    I’ve used the Plane Food Picnics on Domestics in the past; great idea, but you certainly get some nasty looks from the starving people sitting next to you!


    dutchyankee
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    @VK and BB, I have not tried the Plane Food from T5 yet, but the menu looks enticing. That said, sorry for the question, but one thing I experienced in the USA, especially when some passengers take with them some McD’s or other fast food on board is the terrible smell. How does Plane Food compare as I imagine some to the nasty looks aren’t just from hunger but perhaps from annoyance of aroma, or is this not a problem with Plane Food picnics?


    Deleted_User
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    You crack me up VK!


    TominScotland
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    Some good suggestions, here. I do virtually all of my travel in Economy and PE and, to give an idea of the amount I do in these cabins, I will comfortably make my BA Gold again next year. That said, what do I aim to do?
    – Always select an aisle seat, generally in the middle block on long-haul because there is a fair chance that a couple will be seated in the same block and your neighbouring seat will be free.
    – All things being equal, try to fly with your favoured airline/ alliance in the hope of an upgrade – Economy to PE or PE to C happens maybe one in three/ four times with BA/ QF in my experience.
    – If you have status, make use of the lounge before departure, have a meal if available and cut down/ eliminate the food offered inflight if you can
    – Get yourself short legs, as I did at birth. I rarely have problems with pitch as a result……
    – I sleep well with the seat upright and never recline mine. This is probably a personal thing but works well for a 7 hour nap on a 12 hour flight.
    – Get up and move about the cabin as often as you can – the benefit of an aisle seat
    – Remain stoical – you’re the only one to suffer if you let yourself get upset and frustrated


    sparkyflier
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    Agree with Tom above on most things.

    I have generally been an economy flier for business, sometimes premium economy, and rarely business class but a few times. Even if in Y my old company would be unsympathetic if I was slightly tired after a trip!

    Knowing a bit about airlines and aircraft is always a great help.

    My tactics are:-

    1)”Present” certain options to the director/person authorising the expenditure/budget for the said trip, ensuring there are no really bad options. On occasion exaggerate costs of taxis neeeded if arriving at awkward times etc.
    2) Only choose places to go to which you are comfortable with
    3) Always join the FFP!
    4) Choose flights where your preferred kind of aircraft will be in operation, where you know the seating will not be so bad. In my case a 767 or A330/340. Check on the seat pitch is each airlines and aircraft.
    5) Ensure you reserve your choice of seat in advance, and choose an airline that lets you do this.
    6) Get to the airport early and if possible use a lounge access programme.
    7) Get a big bottle of water before the flight but after security, and then have lots of beer/wine etc during the flight but have the water as well so you do not get too dehydrated!
    8) Avoid dry airlines or ones which charge for an alcoholic drink. It really is a pain in the **se to have to get a waller out each time, especially airlines that are now cashless and insist on a credit card swipe/ pin etc This generally means avoid US carriers! Delta not so bad and also have an economy + option (as opposed to premium y).
    9) Good luggage is essential to a smooth and comfortable trip!
    10) Choose airlines that still give a reasonable amount of miles for travelling in Y, so you can think about your next holiday whilst crammed up in that Y seat.
    11) Choose hotels that also give miles to the airline, for example Hilton.
    12) Remind the boss that bit will be difficult to do any work in Y, so the company might get more value from you if you had more space, more rest and where able to do some work in a lounge. . . and try and get him/her to authorise a Y+/’J ticket.
    13) Take the authoriser out for a drink the day before!


    BeckyBoop
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    dutchyankee, I have never eaten in Plane Food, but it does look nice. Looking at the menu its all cold food so shouldn’t stink I wonder why BA just don’t get them to supply to the lounge and onboard catering and for £12.95 sounds pretty good value and all Michelin star. BA should give all pax a voucher when they check-in then they can go to PF and collect their meal to take onboard. BA can then just go and serve drinks


    Papillion53
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    BeckyB – cant comment on Plane Food Picnics, but have eaten in Plane Food – once and never again – it was truly awful, overpriced and just well, awful and it certainly wasn’t Michelin star quality.

    As for cold food, have you ever sat next to someone who’s eating egg mayonnaise???? 🙂 or prawns for that matter? And the results of eating egg mayo a couple of hours later???? I never give the DH egg mayo sandwiches? LOL!

    We noticed on our Aussie domestic flights, that lots of people take on food – smelly or not, and if it’s smelly, too bad if you’re around them.

    Mind you on girls’ days out to EDI, we do take the train and always take a glamourous picnic courtesy of M&S and of course a bottle of fizz. So that’s how we make our economy carriage a premium carriage.

    To get back to aircraft – I would always take a neck cushion, preferably a really nice soft covered ‘U’ shape with a firm but squashy filling, if that makes sense and something to cover up with e.g. a large pashmina – those little blankets are not much good for keeping you warm, and the little pillow makes a good back support – but then I always take these things regardless of cabin as you just never know!

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