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    DavidGordon10
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    We all know that the cabin lights are dimmed for a night-time take-off or landing, so our eyes are dark-adapted in case of an emergency evacuation. The announcement is usually followed by “if you wish to contine reading, please use the reading light in the panel above your head”.

    However. TAP has changed the rules: I am not sure when, but I think between September and November. Now they announce “please turn off your reading light” – so someone at TAP has decided that the reading light leaves you inadequately dark-adapted.

    Has anyone met this on any other airline? (I should point out that it is not enforced. Plenty of reading lights stay on.)


    TimFitzgeraldTC
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    Hi David

    I’ve had it the other way where a carrier (think it was United) on a recent flight in last couple of years left all lights on for landing and take off at night which was very surprising.


    seasonedtraveller
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    I must say, I have always thought that turning on the individual reading lights would seem to make dimming the cabin lights pretty pointless…


    JohnHarper
    Participant

    It used to be the practice on Qantas to put all the lights on for take off and landing regardless of the time of day, I’m not sure whether this still happens.

    I did once ask a purser why and she said she knew it was at odds with almost all the rest of the world but it was to comply with Australian directives.

    I’ve only been on daylight services with QF recently so haven’t noticed whether they still do it or not.


    LuganoPirate
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    With 6 night take offs and landings this last week, both Lufthansa and Swiss turn off the cabin lights, though you’re free to leave the reading light on. The last flight from LHR to Zurich they did leave the florescent lights above the windows on though.

    Personally I’d be happy if they left all the lights off for the flights duration as I enjoy the peace a darkened cabin seems to bring.


    openfly
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    LP…..totally agree with you!

    It’s odd that BA does not turn off the lights, for t/o and landing on the 747 upper deck…all my recent flights. They used to go off. The ceiling lighting is left on. Mind you, it is MF crew, so maybe they don’t know how to do it!

    The other discrepancy is window blinds. BA Cityflyer….blinds MUST be up, as with most other carriers. BA A380 all blinds down…very claustrophobic. Other BA, take your choice! But I was always under the impression that in the event of an external fire on the ground the CAA insist that the crew/passengers would be able to open the emergency exits on the safe, non-fire side. So, with the blinds up, the hazard can be viewed and assessed. And, of course, this goes hand in hand with turning all the lights out, to get the eyes used to a cabin in darkness, in an emergency and a possible evacuation into the darkness.


    727jesmond
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    I just flew back from LIS to MAN with TAP yesterday, and it was getting dark as we landed, the cabin lights were turned off, but I didnt notice anything unusual have to say. I must say TAP are one of my favourite airlinesI use them a lot and always find crew friendly, comfortable seating, drinks and food included in economy, all very pleasant.


    DavidGordon10
    Participant

    I agree with you, 727, about TAP generally. The timekeeping is not very good, but all the other things – crew, seats, food, drink – exactly as you say. The “reading lights off” routine was on three flights, all this month, on the LIS – LHR route. Maybe LIS – MAN is former Portugalia crew and planes, and that explains the difference?


    727jesmond
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    Hi David, Never had problem with time keeping, pretty good I have found. Flew FAO/LIS/MAN my normal route both TAP A319. Only once ever went on a Fokker100 used by Portugalia LIS/MAN, but I think they use them sometimes.


    DavidGordon10
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    I have been unlucky with some late flights, but otherwise they are near the top of my airline list because of the charming crew, and the good and simple food and wine – and the wine and food selection in the TAP lounge at LIS can be really exceptional.

    My first ever trip to Portugal was on Portugalia, MAN – OPO in 2000. I thought I was in heaven with the food and wine that Portugalia had in those days. And then I discovered that Portugal probably is somewhere near heaven.

    I have never stopped going back as often as possible – and, serious point, the minor things in the TAP service mean that it becomes a top choice for an expensive high-revenue-to-the-airline longhaul trip, if TAP is one of the alteratives available. Little things buy a lot of loyalty.

    I have to agree David…Portugal casts a spell.

    My first visit was in ’88.

    And to compare the Portuguese with the Spanish is worthy of a dissertation.


    727jesmond
    Participant

    Have to agree. I go to Portugal regular, as i bought an apartment there. The food ,wine, weather, countryside, beaches and people charmed me so much, just love it. By flying on TAP, you get that feeling as soon as you step onboard, its so nice.


    talparis
    Participant

    Getting fed up with airlines “doing things according to the regulations” & than doing the opposite
    first we were allowed to smoke & than it was against regulations (I am not a smoker)
    than we were not allowed to keep the phone on & now it is allowed
    than came the turn of all electronics that can be keep on now during landing & taking off, but not before
    now we can use the IFE during takeoff & landing but not before
    some airline dime the lights some do not
    some airline open the shutters & some do not
    Are we to learn from that, that the left hand do not know what the right hand doing?
    Taking about truste………………..


    SimonS1
    Participant

    No, just that times change and regulations change too.

    Smoking was allowed but greater consciousness now about the harm from smoking so policy changed.

    Phone was believed to interfere with electronics so it was banned, now evidence that isn’t the case so policy changed.

    Same with IFE and other electronics so policy changed there as well.

    Not sure about the blinds, inevitably policy will change over time as some a/c don’t have blinds these days. Same with the advent of mood lighting.

    Not really sure what trust has to do with it really.

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