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    ExecPlatAA
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    CX 879 SFO-HKG on 1/19/2014 in Business.

    This was a very poor business class service to HKG. The SFO lounge is a disgrace – no First section, a $12 bottle of champagne served and even that was not chilled and hence not available as they had received the shipment only in the morning. Well!.

    Seat 22A is in the 2nd small section of the business class cabin (3 class – no First on this service) and it is not at all private or inviting (and the crew made no attempts to make anyone feel welcome) – main boarding is from this cabin so very rushed and feels like an extension of premium economy rather than a premium cabin (on a 5 star airline). No introduction or goodbye from the cabin service director (even on AA they do that), no welcome drink offered, no news papers or magazines (sorry, none loaded sir!).

    Constant loud noise from the galley and the 2 main closets being opened and closed in this business section. Meal service very very mediocre. Wines on the “Chilean Promotion” not loaded – no other alternative. 2 Wines to choose from and the champagne was served across the entire cabin from one bottle (had to wait for it to be transferred back and forth – and it was not chilled).

    Lights dimmed after 3 hrs only to be jarringly switched on full throttle 6 hrs into the flight while one is sleeping, for dinner service. We had 8 more hrs to go – why does pre- arrival dinner need to be served when all we are trying to do is sleep?? Average food and not appetizing in presentation. Crew did dim the lights as I wanted to sleep but in general were not bothered – one of the lav doors was always wide open and let out bright lights in the cabin and I stood up to close the door 4 times, and the crew did nothing.

    No coffee, water etc offered prior to arrival, as galley was closed (1.5 hrs out of hk?). Sorry, this is not a five star airline service. Qatar is 5 star and if so, this is at best 3-4 stars.

    Even the new business class seat layout seems cramped – even AA have better spacing (on the exact same seats on their 777-ER) and that is saying something.

    I’m sorry, Cathay you missed the mark completely – both hard and soft product on this service. Yes, they have good HK lounges – but on board, this product miserably failed to deliver. Maybe my expectations are that of Qatar business and this CX business is way, way sub par.


    BAGoldcard
    Participant

    Sorry to read the sad details of your flight.

    Did you speak to the Cabin Manager? I do think that we should do this if unhappy, so that he/she can deal with the situation.

    Please, please write to CX and let us know the outcome.


    ExecPlatAA
    Participant

    Thank you BAGoldcard. I did mention my displeasure (briefly and politely) to the CC and i thought they would convey it to the CSD – but she did not stop by for a chat. Not even a welcome or goodbye chat. I have written a constructive message to CX as I do think this was an anomaly – surely CX is better than this- in fact I have experienced better service from them and would hate to see them slip like this for good.


    thebigseats
    Participant

    Sorry to hear about your poor experiences. I have not had a bad sector on CX in the lsat 2-3 years (all in Business) and thats a fair number of sectors. Yes the food isn’t great (in presentation, certainly) but IME always tasty enough & served graciously. Give them another try, it sounds like you had a really bad crew. I would also be keen to see how they respond to such a customer complaint, so do feed back.


    K1ngston
    Participant

    +1 thebigseats I have started using CX regularly as I am based in Singapore I am a OW emerald and they fly directly to Bangkok from SIN and allows me to gain points and avios as well as sample the CX service. On the short sectors I fly Y as there is no need to pay for J comfort for a 2 hour hop, and everytime bar none the CSD has come and introduced themselves bought some water, offered me something to show the value of my OW status..

    Please try them again they are better for sure than you suggest!


    peter19
    Participant

    I flew Cathay in Business this week as was disappointed. The crew were nice, always addressed me by name etc. Food service was OK but the main meals were poor in quality and they were not hot enough. The rest of the snacks like cake and fruit was nice and fresh. I did not get the chile wine offer either only 2 of the other bottles that were on the route.
    As my first experience with Cathay business I thought the seating was crampt – for example my right arm area when flat.

    I have flown PE with Cathay a few times and i found this a good product but was slightly disappointed by the business class.

    Could not fault the crew though on any flights i have taken so far..


    MartynSinclair
    Participant

    Flown 4 sectors with Cathay in the last couple of months (HKG-BKK-HKG x2).

    Completed a comments card on 2 of the sectors and got a response back from CX via email.

    Thought the seats were fabulous, food, very acceptable, service very professional.

    You must have had a CSD who was having a bad day – no excuse, but perhaps that was the reason.


    Schaible
    Participant

    I am a bit surprised and shocked about your report. I know that CX has some shortcomings in the Business cabin hardware but I remember their service as close to excellent.

    I will be traveling more with them in near near future (mostly FRA-HKG) and hope your flight was just on a bad day. Wish they don’t get the “Emirates syndrome” (neglecting the service quality and failing to keep up). I believe CX has a “healthy” and reasonable speed of growth.


    CathayLoyalist2
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    I, like Schaible, was surprised by ExecPlatAA’s comments. I have being flying with CX for 23 years and over that time there has been around 4/5 minor sub service instances and 1 major one all dealt with quickly upon writing in. A case of one of those crews on one of those days but write in as I have found CX very responsive. Interestingly over the years when I have asked for help using miles that had expired . my mistake, the expiry was extended and on a flight back from the UK to HKG when I went past the 2 million miles mark I was presented with a congratulations card signed by all the crew. Give them another go ExecPlatAA . Lightening doesn’t strike twice in the same place.


    ExecPlatAA
    Participant

    I have received a prompt email response from CX, and here it is in its entirety:
    Thank you for your email. Your feedback is extremely important to us as it gives us an opportunity to improve our services.

    Having read the details of your complaint, we are sorry to learn you have been so disappointed with our ground and inflight service when you travelled to Hong Kong recently. I sincerely apologise for not delivering our normal high standard of Business class service you have come to expect from us.

    We always strive to provide our passengers with the very best in-flight experience to make their journey pleasant and enjoyable. However, I regret to note that things on this flight didn’t go very smoothly and failed to meet your expectations.

    We are working hard to get every aspects of our service right for everyone of our customers, so it is genuinely helpful to have your views pinpointing where we need to focus our efforts. Your comments on various aspects of our service have been duly noted for the attention of the relevant departments for their attention and review, in view to understand what we could have done more to prevent it.

    In view of your overall experience, we would like offer service vouchers to the value of USD100. Please confirm Cathay Pacific ticket number, and your complete postal address for us to send the vouchers via registered post.

    We look forward to hearing from you soon.

    Yes, you read it right – they want to send me $100 ! Needless to add this was a >$5K business class ticket from SF-HKG-PVG and back. I am speechless. I would have rather they not done this – how about – we are just sorry and have reviewed your records and your past flying history with us and AA (I’ve been One World Emerald since the program inception) and will just do better next time (they do say that in the email, but seems like a cut and paste). Anyway, I am not at all happy with this but this is as far as it goes for me with CX and this flight.


    AllOverTheGaff
    Participant

    ExecPlatAA – 22/01/2015 12:58 GMT
    In view of your overall experience, we would like offer service vouchers to the value of USD100..

    Oh dear.

    Oh dear oh dear.

    Disappointing to say the least.

    Rgds.
    AOTG.


    Carajillo2Sugar
    Participant

    Sounds like it needs to go higher up the food-chain to receive a proper response!


    Schaible
    Participant

    This reply from CX is poor indeed. Better they would not have offered anything but an apology.

    Reminds me of Emirates… For a lot of ignored and never replied complaints after 8 months they presented me stupid excuses and a few miles: just enough to upgrade from the terminal building to the runway….

    Ridiculous bunch of unprofessional people. This was the last time EK saw me as a passenger – but not as a person who stays away from sharing my story.


    CathayLoyalist2
    Participant

    Ironically I have just written an article about customer complaints and the manner in which they should be seen and handled namely an opportunity recover from a ‘poor performance’ and a dis proportionate reply in favour of the customer. I agree the letter is really poor, yet it reflects far more on the senior managements lack of empathy. I might take it up with the CX people here in Singapore as I know them well. ExecPlatAA is the story you described free of any embellishments?

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