BA to can LGW-MAN-LGW

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    rferguson
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    Just saw online that BA is to withdraw from the Gatwick – Manchester market from Mar 31st.

    Wonder if this will be the first of several announcements regarding LGW.

    I heard just yesterday from a management source that the turnaround BA had hoped for at LGW just isnt happening and that further route cuts are imminent.


    andystock
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    Some newer aircraft would help, as the LGW fleet is old when you comapre it to Easyjet at LGW.


    VintageKrug
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    Route cuts don’t necessarily mean a reduction in BA presence at the airport. I’d be bullish for BA’s presence there, less so about their shorthaul network, which should be sold off.


    rferguson
    Participant

    Yes VK, it is the shorthaul network that is struggling.

    And BA are refusing to invest in new aircraft for LGW short haul until they are confident it can turn a profit. Which is looking less and less likely.


    VintageKrug
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    The shorthaul business should be sold off or closed.

    I’d give it a maximum of 1-2 years.

    Money from the sale used to focus on a premium leisure and long/thin routes. Dreamliner-sized aircraft were made for this market.

    It may be no co-incidence the investment was made to extend the life of the longhaul 767 fleet…..


    Jasonltd1
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    Two new SH routes to be announced on Wed so in answer to the above (rferguson) there is no truth in that.


    BeckyBoop
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    BA shouldnt pull out totally from short haul as it may cause problems people who want to take flights exEU and more importantly people living in other parts of the UK that dont live close to London to get on to Long Haul route or short haul in to europe. All the gulf carriers almost have at least one flight from every major UK airport


    Drumochter
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    Very disheartening announcement – particularly given that Virgin are about to commence a service on this route albeit from LHR. First it was Aberdeen and now Manchester – will BA abandon the UK regions from Gatwick?

    Could one way forward for IAG be an “Iberia Express” type operation out of Gatwick. Similar customer experience to BA mainline but with reduced operating costs with regard to crews, handling contracts etc. May I be bold and suggest a name for this new, lean, operator: “Dan Air – London” ๐Ÿ˜‰


    flier74
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    Well I believe, or shall I say, have been told that the ex bmi A319 may be going to LGW next summer in order to renew the fleet so I do not think LGW shorthaul flights will be going totally soon.


    Shearer
    Participant

    Could one way forward for IAG be an “Iberia Express” type operation out of Gatwick.

    BA have tried sorting out Gatwick many many times.


    andystock
    Participant

    Is it not just since buying BMI, BA has to many flights between London and Manchester, 11 from LHR a day.


    millionsofmiles
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    So finally British Airways is morphing into “Heathrow Airways”, where pax have to source their own feeder traffic?
    More people will take the available nonstops from non-LHR airports with other carriers like KLM, LH, EK and so on.
    BA will have to rely on LHR traffic.

    Such a downfall from the once glorious days of being a leading European airline, not being able to afford some selfmade feeder traffic.


    Gin&Tonic
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    European (KL,AF,AY,LX, etc) and Middle East carriers are already mopping up business in the UK regions, with very competitive rates in all classes. If BA seriously believes it can offer a product to/from only the major European cities and use Lhr as a hub itโ€™s delusional. They may get good yields in business and first from UK or should I say south of Watford UK customers, but they will never fill economy.


    VintageKrug
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    BA has one of the lowest proportions of economy cabin passengers of any airline; just take a look at the 777 seatmap to see that:

    http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/British_Airways/British_Airways_Boeing_777-200.php

    Quite apart from reducing transfer options, this is about focussing on what BA does best; higher value transfer and business traffic which wants to access London and beyond, creating a frequent shuttle connecting at LHR to BA’s mainline network.

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