BA flight deck security
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at 19:06 by MrMichael.
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MartynSinclairParticipantComing back from Milan tonight, sitting in row 1, with my family, I felt quite shocked to see one of pilots leave the flight deck without a second crew member (cabin crew) entering the flight deck. Whilst I am a regular passenger, I felt very very uncomfortable seeing this situation and thought that most airlines had agreed not to allow 1 pilot to remain on the flight deck.
I had witnessed this on February 15th as well coming back from Frankfurt but thought this was a one off.
I spoke to the senior member of cabin crew. Whilst they gave me the “we are not allowed to discuss security”, which I accepted, they also accepted my point of view and concerns..
Am I right in showing concern or should I not be worried with the BA protocol of allowing 1 pilot to remain on the flight deck en route???
19 Jul 2015
at 22:26
Gin&TonicParticipantMartyn, I agree with you, and I would also have been surprised and concerned with that. Like you I am sure it’s not something that would even cross my mind on a flight unless I too saw it. But once witnessed given the circumstances of recent tragedies I would also raise the point.
20 Jul 2015
at 00:58
MrMichaelParticipantMartyn, your spot on. Even if BA had decided the security measure of 2x on the flight deck was not necessary, passenger reassurance that they are making an effort to thwart nutcases on the flightdeck would have been wise. I shall keep an eye on them on my flight this morning to MAD. To be honest on short flights such as inter European, couldn’t they hold on until landing.
20 Jul 2015
at 05:03
NTarrantParticipantI thought they usually advise cabin crew they are coming out of the cockpit. They then pull the curtain across so passengers can’t see what’s going on. This certainly happens most of the time on Saudia and I have seen it on another airline, which one escapes me.
20 Jul 2015
at 06:16
DoorsToManualParticipantMartynSinclair
Are you a paranoid American? Here in the UK we take pride in not living in fear and the act of the German Wings pilot was a one off incident and not Terror related. British Airways are right not to change all their policies based on one thing. Do you think we should not wear underwear for flights after ‘that’ incident?
20 Jul 2015
at 06:57
Gin&TonicParticipantDoorsToManual
After how many incidents should we make changes, for me one would be enough as the recommendations introduced were simple enough, that any other crew member simply joins the pilot or co pilot when one or the other is taking a short break.
German Wings 2015
Malaysian Airlines 2014
Lam 2013
Egypt air 1999
Silk Air 1997
JAL 198220 Jul 2015
at 07:18
Carajillo2SugarParticipantIn the situation that a member of cabin crew had joined the flight-deck of the doomed German Wings aircraft when the Captain visited the bathroom, just what would they have been able to do to avert the situation?
20 Jul 2015
at 07:29
Carajillo2SugarParticipantThe auto-pilot had already been set so, unless the member of cabin-crew had been able to overpower an obviously deranged co-pilot and knew how to fly the plane, they would have not have been able to make any difference.
20 Jul 2015
at 07:54
AlexthegreatParticipantOn my BA flight from LHR to KBP last week, not only did they draw the curtain across the aisle, but just prior to that they placed a bar/food trolley across to block the aisle – which was a first for me.
20 Jul 2015
at 09:08
Andrew66ParticipantOn my recent flight , I was coming out of the toilet and had a little chat with cabin crew , she then asked if I would go back to my seat and then pulled the curtain across , I could see through the gap that one of the pilots then came out for a break etc and the young cabin crew member went into the cockpit , which from a safety point of view makes sense , but would the young member of cabin crew be able to do anything if overpowered by a crazed pilot in a copycat of the germanwings tragedy ?? She might have just been going in with drinks and food though , but the procedure was made that no passengers were around when the cockpit door was open , which is good practice and common sense
20 Jul 2015
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