A giggle in BA First

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    openfly
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    The mixed-fleet crews operate the Cape Town service. They are young and, in most cases, obviously inexperienced and untrained especially in the First cabin.

    I was sitting in 5K and watching this very pretty, very young, female cabin crew attempt to carry out the F service. She remembered that she had to show the wine label and offer a taste before serving…all correct. But I then watched her show the label and offer a tasting……of the Highland Spring water! So sweet and innocent.

    No serviettes, cutlery the wrong way round, starter and soup brought together, no after take off bar round, woken two and a half hours before landing…very amateur. I blame the tutors in the BA classrooms. They have no idea what quality service involves.

    As an aside, I went back to the Club Kitchen to see what was on offer. Nothing except bottles of water!! Absolutely nothing…despite the menu informing me of all the delights I could expect. WTP had their Tuck Box, which the crew said I could help myself from…so kind!!


    BAGoldcard
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    Did you raise the issues with the CSM?

    I think it is important to provide live feedback when possible.

    You could send an email to BA Customer Relations and provide your feedback as the points you raise are failures in customer service in their top cabin.


    DoorsToManual
    Participant

    I was on a recent flight in FIRST on BA where the Mixed Fleet crew member had an iPad mini on her silver tray with a picture of how to lay the table correctly. I suppose thats one way of getting it right…


    KarlMarx
    Participant

    “cutlery the wrong way round,”

    “the Mixed Fleet crew member had an iPad mini on her silver tray with a picture of how to lay the table correctly”

    Perhaps the iPad was upside down on openfly’s flight? Sounds plausible 😉


    BusinessBabble
    Participant

    I love the mixed fleet crew on the CPT route, my last trip another very young, very pretty, very polite crew member was very apologetic about my grubby seat and tray and proceeded to clean it… with a smile…a welcome breath of fresh air.


    TominScotland
    Participant

    Openfly, I think you should have demanded that the flight return to CPT and the CSM be off-loaded – that is after she/ he was made to grovel at your feet!!


    JeffD
    Participant

    Hello, lets not bash mixed fleet too much. Yes they are young but they are usually excited about there jobs. I have noticed that the legacy crews seem to less welcoming than before and no as eager to please.

    Once the mixed fleet crews have the same number of hours under their belts as the world wide crews I am sure they will be excellent.

    In the mean time we may expect to see little slips up like showing the label on a bottle of water.


    LuganoPirate
    Participant

    Great story Openfly, how I love it, and something similar happened to me on Lufthansa in First many years ago, by an obviously inexperienced, young and lets just say very Teutonic stewardess!

    I’d seen her watching attentively the Maitre de Cabine who’d expertly poured me a glass of wine having shown me the label. She’d come to check all was OK and I asked for some sparkling water. Instead of just a glass full she bought the bottle, presented it and I asked her which vintage it was. She said she’d go and ask.

    The laughter from the galley could be heard throughout the cabin as she came back red faced with an apologetic, but laughing maitre. He explained she was actually filling in for a crew member who fell ill but he’d never forget this flight.

    Just before landing she came up to me and presented me with a bottle of the wine I’d been drinking and had enjoyed. What a nice gesture that actually made me feel a bit guilty!


    TheRealBabushka
    Participant

    openfly,

    You suggested poor training by BA as cause. I wonder if it is more a reflection of the state education system.

    Should industry be doing the heavy lifting because the state has failed young people?


    handbag
    Participant

    I used to train. There are certain things that you would point out are not acceptable practice, I don’t think anyone would have ever thought to add to the Course notes, that Crew must be informed to not show the labels of bottle of water when serving.

    I so wish that the Fleets were merged, you would then have Crew of experience, who were guiding the younger more unexperienced, whilst still bringing the breath of fresh air and enthusiasm that youth brings.


    Poshgirl58
    Participant

    TheRealBabushka – agree totally! Many years ago I worked in a local school that had leisure industry subjects on the timetable. One was for those interested in an airline cabin crew career. I could count on one hand the students who had the commonsense/maturity to succeed. That school closed recently due wider problems/failures.

    If they cannot do a relatively simple task like lay a table, then it’s worrying to consider how they would react in an emergency, given that’s their primary reason for being there.

    A good giggle though!


    BigDog.
    Participant

    Poor training, too young/not enough life/service experience; poor education you take your choice.

    Speaking to CC, training only goes so far, newbies (for first few months) used to be put under the wing of experienced staff. First class training used to be undertaken at the earliest 6 months after initial training. Nowadays I understand it is all lumped together – so it must be very daunting for a newbie.

    When you have lower entry standards, high levels of turnover, the few experienced crew being far too thinly spread, the consequence is obvious…. guess Walsh wasn’t intelligent enough to think things through for the long term, instead behaved like a child who wees his pants for warmth in the winter.


    Charles-P
    Participant

    I would suggest that anybody currently employing school leavers in the UK can tell a wealth of stories concerning their ‘skills’.

    When I still maintained an office in the UK (this was two years ago) we had enormous problems in recruiting competent clerical staff. Individuals with degrees who had trouble working with simple computer stock software, a young girl who felt her 2:1 in history warranted a 75K salary, a boy who took Monday’s off when Fulham lost on the Saturday “to recover”. The list goes on and on.
    God knows what BA must reject !


    BigDog.
    Participant

    Yes education standards have certainly fallen but has been hidden by the unconscionable grade inflation over the last 15 years.

    An employee was asked what the detection foot print would be of a movement sensor with a 40 degree span fixed to a 4m high ceiling. His boss suggested he works it out using basic trigonometry – unfortunately the employee had never heard of Sin, Cos, Tan – yet had a B grade in his maths GCSE!

    Indeed what is taught nowadays?

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