In your view - who offers the best premium economy in the skies?

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Virgin

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Not much to choose from!

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Scandinavian Airlines, no doubt. With BA as a good second.

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BMI Premium economy for LHR to TLV or LHR to CAI is the best in the world, with 50" pitch. The seats used for this class were the business class seats until 2007.

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It has to be Qantas. They have the newest seats of them all and the closest to Business Class I have seen. The Qantas service is good to

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Virgin of course - if you fly with BA in WT+ the only difference is the seat. The service etc is exactly the same as WT. At least VS makes you feel that you get what you pay for!

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Virgin - on BA you get only a seat and not even a toilet or two in the same cabin. BA is exceptionally poor value for Premium Economy

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EVA AIR used to very good ! Gone down rapidly since however with all the little brats strapped to business men using up their air miles to take ugly wife and kids to the Far East ! Ughh...the screaming was unmerciful... and that was from the wives stuck in cattle class the other 2nd brat !

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Air New Zealand

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BMI - Big cradle seats, ex. business class with far more width and legroom than any of the other by a long margin. Definitely unbeatable, though limited network.

Air NZ - Best food, offers business class food and drinks with seating up to par (though no wider than economy in the 777s, but does have 42" pitch with the new refurbishment). Also offers business class luggage allowance.

Qantas - Second best seating, wider than Virgin, BA or NZ. Pitch more than BA and Virgin.

Virgin - Better all round compared to BA, except cabin on A346 has a row of seats between two toilets than economy passengers use - absolute hell on an overnight flight.

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How about ANA and JAL - can't speak for the actual seating products (although i think JAL recently introduced theirs?), but i believe both offer lounge access for premium economy passengers...

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It has to be bmi. In the days when they were serving Chicago and Carribbean the seat pitch was 50 inches, which leaves other airlines with a pethetic 38 inches. These aricraft are now on mid haul routes out of Heathrow.

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It seems there is quite a range of carriers offering Premium Economy seats these days.

Virgin, BA, EVA Air, Air New Zealand, Qantas, bmi have all been mentioned here. Was not aware Scandinavian now offered this cabin longhaul, interesting.

I think Japan Airlines and Air France now offer this cabin as well. I suppose www.flyopenskies.com BizSeat also qualifies.

The American majors seem reluctant to jump on this bandwagon, and although United offers an Economy Plus service, it is really just economy seating more spaced out.

My first experience was a very comfortable "Mid Class" flight on Virgin Atlantic in 1992; they claim to be the first to have introduced such a class, but in fact BA used to have something branded with headrests emboldened with "Caribbean Service" which used the rear Business Class cabin cradle seats with regular economy food and service - that would probably have been late 80s.

Seemed it was offered as an incentive for tour operators and also to make use of the large business cabin on this mainly leisure route - have a feeling it would have been a DC10, so might have actually been BCal.

I have also flown the current bmi PE seats - albeit when they were in "the business". Very comfy and large, and handily they can be reclined further with a little deft jigging of the mechanism for those in the know; best not to try this though!

Haven't been on Virgin for a few years,but have a trip coming up next month and will potter back to check out their newly updated offering; excellent hard product by all accounts, but the usual Virgin hit and miss youthful crews and an almost certain lack of champagne towards the end of the flight. Do they actually expect us to drink water ???

BA was pioneering in introducing PE across its entire longhaul network, making it the most widely available premium economy product.

Personally, I found the seat rather hard on my one experience of flying WT+; benefits are certainly the 125% of miles flown on any WT+ fare and relatively high number of BA Tier Points (75 per transatlantic sector), but I do think other carriers have the PE edge nowadays, and with business class fares so low right now it would seem unnecessary to rough it when you could be lying fully flat.

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Vintage Krug is right about BA's 'Caribbean Class'. I remember flying in the back business cabin in a cradle seat where the service was economy going to Barbados in 1989. The plane we had though was a 747.

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Vintage Krug is right about BA's 'Caribbean Class'. I remember flying in the back business cabin in a cradle seat where the service was economy going to Barbados in 1989. The plane we had though was a 747.

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Does anyone remember BA's 'Elizabethan Service' to the States back in late 1970s (or are you all too young)?

This was a precursor to Club and seemed simply to consist of better meals and a quieter cabin. As far as I recall, the seats were the same as Economy. I also remember that the cost difference was very little between Elizabethan and Full Economy.

The advertising symbol was King Henry VIII, which sent out a range of messages.......

Ah well, as someone once said, "Nostalgia's not what it used to be."

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I had my first experiences with premium eco last jan.09 flying from LHR-HKG-LHR with NZ and last march .09 with BR AMS-BKK-AMS BR offers good(comparing to BA WTP) and NZ offers very good product. Especially the qualitative food choices and beverages on NZ really make you consider flying prem eco on day-flights. The purser on board NZ told me they serve business class food and beverages for prem. eco as well. The seat has a good recline and if posssible a good sleep. BR on the other hand, despite of a very attentive F/A , food/beverages are only par. Only good with BR product is the price to BKK or TPE depending on the season you fly.

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Hi everyone!!

As far as I can see KLM has been doing his homework lately and lucky for their FB loyal pax. Now they have the choice of a Prem Y and receive discounts on purchasing it. Just read the latest news from 16.09.09.

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